Why is it so hard to find a job being a convicted felon?

[fun63111]

Okay, yes I am a convicted felon for a non-violent crime. I have many skills and qualifications and am having a very difficult time in finding a job. I've been to just about every employment agency, job banks....nothing at all. I have had interviews and honestly, I have more qualifications and skills then they do and yet I still can't get a job.

I have learned from my mistake and am ready to make a "fresh start"...why can't anyone give me a chance. I don't drink, smoke, do drugs......I am extremely computer literate, have construction skills and much more.

So....if anyone in the Saint Louis area can help me out with a job I would appreciate it. I am a very hard worker, reliable, dependable and willing to learn.

Thank you very much for taking the time to read this.

[>>Flyboy<<]

Are you employable? Do you have a trade or special skill? How well is your resume written and what kind of position are you looking for? You might try to focus on something specific and try to tailor your resume for that position. Hope this helps, good luck...

[fun63111]

I've actually had my resume done by a professional organization, and I have focused on a specific job....so, I guess I simply have to deal with being a convicted felon and not many people wanting to give me a chance...but I am determined and will hopefully find a job soon.

[MYMAGICEIGHTBALL]

Just wondering though... Perhaps you are looking for work in an area that can easily be related to that of what you were convicted for? Is that possible? If so, maybe you could consider other fields of work all together? If not, sometimes it is just a matter of finding the right person who will give you a fresh start. You can do that if you don't give up! Don't get discouraged! I know it may not seem like it right now, but you will find something. All you have to do is to stay dedicated and focused. Hang int here!

Best of luck to you!
Jacie

[profit princess]

in the eyes of the law once a felon always a felon :(

[slyfox216]

Why would anyone hire someone who has been convicted of a crime violant/or not, you were still convicted. They don't want someone who has been in trouble with the law working for them, it looks bad on them, the company and makes people think twice about purchasing or dealing with the company. Also once you have a record it makes them lose trust in you, that you may never get back from anyone

[willy77]

I can relate- i am having same problem- have had misdemeneors- DWI's and still having problems getting a job- i worked in the legal field before, and various retail and customer service jobs in the past and i am willing to try something new also- live in the houston area - am also an attractive 41 yr old woman- if that would help- if anyone hears of anything please let me know.


Hey can you send me a resume and a photo?

[webangel]

don't lose hope!! :D prove your worth. good luck!

[ronconan]

I got busted for having a pick axe handle under the seat of my truck and 5 loaded guns inside as I came home from the desert. DA said he would release 5 charges and prosecute 1. I worked at a Nuclear Power Plant and couldn't have firearms charges so I gave him the "billy club" felony. I spent the next ten years dealing with that charge. It is finally off the view of any body, except the Federal Employers like the Post Office. Hang in there!

[mrgille]

THERE ARE THOUSANDS AND THOUSAND OF crime biz workers.Now they use mexicans who not bustable just blowupable .got it earl.

[OldManRiver]

How computer literate? Can you program?

OMR

[OldManRiver]

I got busted for having a pick axe handle under the seat of my truck and 5 loaded guns inside as I came home from the desert. DA said he would release 5 charges and prosecute 1. I worked at a Nuclear Power Plant and couldn't have firearms charges so I gave him the "billy club" felony. I spent the next ten years dealing with that charge. It is finally off the view of any body, except the Federal Employers like the Post Office. Hang in there!

Don't know where you're from, but Texas has a 5 year expungment law, which says, keep it clean five years after being out and off probation, etc. and you can file to have your felony record expunged. Most states have similar laws but times very. In Oklahoma, it is seven years.

Anyway if you can find a job flipping burgers or something till your nose is clean then you can apply.

My biz partner still has eight years to go on his parole, before he can start accumulating his five years.

OMR

[BlkKitty]

As a person who works with ex-offender placement, I can tell you that most employer do not hire ex-offenders due to the fact that it makes their issurance go up and makes them liable for other charges and unnecessary law suits.

For instance, a local, large hotel gave a housekeeping position to a seemingly trustworthy ex-offender, whose offense just happen to be robbery. A resident accused this women of stealing her fur coat. The hotel is very sure that she did not have a fur coat when she entered their establishment. They had to fire the housekeeper with the felony offense in robbery, and pay the women, for the cost of the coat in order to avoid a costly lawsuit.

What you should do is change the direction of your job search. I think you might be going about it all wrong. You should first find out the ex-offender friendly jobs or positions that are available in your area. It does not matter whether or not they are hiring, because they will be hiring at some point in time. Network with other ex-offenders like yourself, you really want to find out where they work, and who hired them. One thing is for sure, people mess up, go back to jail, go back to street life, whatever, there will be a position opening. Another thing, if they can't hire you who can? Don't be afraid to ask for a referral, people in hr tend to talk, because hiring someone word of mouth will save them money.

Here are some hints: (this is in Missouri, but it might help)

Hotels will hire person's with an offense, based on the offense. Example: If you have a felony in robbery you can apply for laundry, and any position that does not involve personal possession contact. They tend to hire drug offenders mostly.

If your conviction is in drug possession then, it usually is easier for you to get a job than other offenses. The hardest offenses for us to place are homocide, assult with a deadly, and fraud.

Another issue that you want to take into account is how long ago your conviction was. The more recent the more of a problem for getting you hired.

Also, you will need to get into some volunteer programs and some community based programs. This way you can establish yourself as a valued member again. Also, this is the fastest way to get a job. Community programs, usually hire from within, (ie their volunteer pool), also they have no problem hiring an ex-offender. ( Because, the cheapest and best labor force is in the ex-offender arena, also ex-offender's also show a dedication and appreciation that other workers don't). Community based programs are an excellent networking tool. Also and this is very important....You are still paying attention, aren't you...Okay, here it goes...


VOLUNTEER WORK CLOSES THE GAP IN UNEMPLOYMENT. Gaps are a clear indication of a drug addict or exoffender, at least this is one of the first things that runs to HR's mind. UNSTABLE. You can use volunteer work to close the gap in your employment history on your resume and you can use the people that you volunteer for as positive work and personal references. One of the problems with being an exoffender is that you have a "gap" in employment, and possibly little or no references.

Also, you can use this information in your interview when you inform the employer that your offense was in your past and that you have made efforts to reestablish yourself in the community by...

Don't forget that what you did in prison, is work and also can be used in your resume. They will eventually find out your an exoffender.

Happy job searching.

[swoopster]

The problem that convicted felons or anybody with a crimal history is that they are looking to work for someone. The culture is that companies wil not hire so called bad people.

You can still provide for yourself and put food on the table by shifting your thought process into working for yourself.

If you have skills in any field, then research what is needed to do your own thing yourself.

Computer skills for example. If you can design webpages, fix computers, install operating systems or even program software. You have plenty of small to medium size companies that be more than willing to use you because you would not cost them as much to contract some of the more well known service companies.

There are a number of work at home and do it yourself jobs out there. People have been doing it for years. I have a job plus do work at home jobs.

It all about how much you are willing to do for yourself. Don't wait for handouts.

A quote from the movie Scarface, "What is it you want?" Answer: "The World Chico and Everything in it."

Peace

[GreygooseLX]

Man it's tough and you have to work your ass off.

I spent 2.5 years locked up and then spent the next 8 years successfully in the IT industry. I basically lied about my background and targeted small firms who I didn't think would do a background check. I also used professional placement services & told them my "history" and that they should avoid trying to place me w/ firms that did checks.

So, all I'm saying is that it's doable. Tough, but doable.

[mrgille]

ok.

[secondwind1958]

Hey I'm in St Louis and an employer, What kind of job are you looking for? Shoot me an e-mail and I'll try to help.
Secondwind1958@yahoo.com
P.S. Don't loose heart, just keep plugging along and you'll find it.
M.G.

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[heytappy]

In reply to sylfox 216 I totally disagree with your point of view. It is people like you who make it hard for honest folks to find work. Everyone is entitled to make a mistake we are not perfect. You are shallow minded in your views about convicted felons and judgemental. I just hope you never are in a situation where you find yourself convicted. You have them all summed up. Everyone is entitled another chance at it. You have no idea who he is or what he is only that he has been in trouble once in his life. You said that that gives the compay a bad name and people might not want to do business with a company that has hired a convicted felon; but what if the customer looks at it another way such as not wanting to do business with a company who is not willing to give a person another chance. You have not lived long enough to see it another way yet! Hope you live long enought to gain some wisdom and knowledge about life

[favery]

I also am going through the same situation. and yes there is a possibilty to get the Felony expundged off of your record, but if you have a huge fine to pay it is impossible to take that action with out employment. With out employment I can not pay the fines, so there my charges stay hunting me everytime I apply for a postionI don't know your crime and I don't believe that once a felony always a felony. I do however believe that people go back to doing what puts food on thier table. It has been 6 years since I caught my case. No drugs, don't drink, stable family life, beautiful inside and out I don't know how "criminals" look but I am not the person you would assume that would even be involved in anything but PTA or Church functions. My crime was considered a crime of intelligence, which is the dumest thing I have ever heard in my life. I pled guilty and didn't realize my options till it was to late. I have never known anyone to go through the system, Ijust wanted probation vs. 7 years in prison. Which brings me to another point, I was told if I was on Parole I could get assistance with employment, should I have done a worst crime to get help. since I have relocated to Texas from California I have put in 125 applications, 93 interviews 47 job offers and 0 jobs. All I wanted to do is have a "fresh Start" that is why I moved 1600 miles from great weather to hot as Hell Texas. It doesn't work your background will follow you.
Keep your head up. Have faith God takes care of those who seek him.
Okay, yes I am a convicted felon for a non-violent crime. I have many skills and qualifications and am having a very difficult time in finding a job. I've been to just about every employment agency, job banks....nothing at all. I have had interviews and honestly, I have more qualifications and skills then they do and yet I still can't get a job.

I have learned from my mistake and am ready to make a "fresh start"...why can't anyone give me a chance. I don't drink, smoke, do drugs......I am extremely computer literate, have construction skills and much more.

So....if anyone in the Saint Louis area can help me out with a job I would appreciate it. I am a very hard worker, reliable, dependable and willing to learn.

Thank you very much for taking the time to read this.

[favery]

I also am going through the same situation. and yes there is a possibilty to get the Felony expundged off of your record, but if you have a huge fine to pay it is impossible to take that action with out employment. With out employment I can not pay the fines, so there my charges stay hunting me everytime I apply for a postionI don't know your crime and I don't believe that once a felony always a felony. I do however believe that people go back to doing what puts food on thier table. It has been 6 years since I caught my case. No drugs, don't drink, stable family life, beautiful inside and out I don't know how "criminals" look but I am not the person you would assume that would even be involved in anything but PTA or Church functions. My crime was considered a crime of intelligence, which is the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life. I pled guilty and didn't realize my options till it was to late. I have never known anyone to go through the system, Ijust wanted probation vs. 7 years in prison. Which brings me to another point, I was told if I was on Parole I could get assistance with employment, should I have done a worst crime to get help. since I have relocated to Texas from California I have put in 125 applications, 93 interviews 47 job offers and 0 jobs. With pay scales from $9.00 hr - 4200.00 a month.Some employers say just dis-close the crime and you will be ok, but that has not been proven correct so far.All I wanted to do is have a "fresh Start" that is why I moved 1600 miles from great weather to hot as Hell Texas. It doesn't work your background will follow you.
Keep your head up. Have faith God takes care of those who seek him. Pay your fines and remove what you can.
Okay, yes I am a convicted felon for a non-violent crime. I have many skills and qualifications and am having a very difficult time in finding a job. I've been to just about every employment agency, job banks....nothing at all. I have had interviews and honestly, I have more qualifications and skills then they do and yet I still can't get a job.

I have learned from my mistake and am ready to make a "fresh start"...why can't anyone give me a chance. I don't drink, smoke, do drugs......I am extremely computer literate, have construction skills and much more.

So....if anyone in the Saint Louis area can help me out with a job I would appreciate it. I am a very hard worker, reliable, dependable and willing to learn.

Thank you very much for taking the time to read this.

[Kurisu]

<B>Quote from BlkKitty "You should first find out the ex-offender friendly jobs or positions that are available in your area. It does not matter whether or not they are hiring, because they will be hiring at some point in time".</B> My response to this is that this man needs to eat and cloth himself now, not later, today. And I do agree with him that Felons do get a shitty hand dealt. Sure he screwed up. I am assuming it was a white collar crime such as hacking, fraud, etc. I tell you what, if I was an employer I would hire this guy. If he was a hacker that means he knows what he's doing with a computer and could protect my company from other hackers. If it was fraud, then he's good with numbers. If companies would actually pay a semi-decent wage to people then just mabey people would not do near as much crime.I am an I.T. professional. In 2000 I was making 50,000 a year non-degreed and 22 years old. Now, to do the SAME job I am lucky to get 11 dollars an hour and degreed. So I have now re-enrolled in college and I am now a linguistics major working on my 2nd degree. my advice to you is go to school get a decent education at an actual university not a college you see advertise on T.V. and get the hell out of the U.S. Once out of the U.S. you do not even have to mention your record. A friend of mine did this and is living HAPPILY in Canada. I also believe that once you have done your time and paid your debt to society why the hell should it be anyone elses business but your own. Now there are exceptions to the rule such as murder, rape, child offenses. But c'mon America grow the fuck up. I am sure that everyone in America has done something illegal at some point and just wasn't caught or if they are caught can't own up to their own actions. This nation is one of the most hypocritical nations on Earth, just look at the politicians. But everyone in this country is so PC and to afraid to speak the truth. That's right, I am talking to all you ex / current pot smokers / dealers and corporate coke heads out there. I can't wait to get the hell out of Dodge. This place is really beginning to suck.

[zaecz]

I work at home, I’m a contractor for several companies. I make it but it’s rough. I am in my late 20*s and got convicted right when I turned 18. 2 felonies one Misdemeanor and I live in California. IT’S ROUGH HERE. Well I got 2 reduced to misdemeanors then dismissed pursuant to finishing probation, and then other just reduced which remains a misdemeanor. I wish I could get started in school so I can start a career. This has been very discouraging. I really want to go to school and get a degree but what kind of degree can I get with all this on my back ground. I’m willing to go to school that’s not a problem but after I’m done WHAT I can do. In addition who’s to say the laws wont change in 5 years from now then it would have been a whole waist of time. Any ideas would be great, any feedback please. Another state that is great is Arizona I lived there for 5 years and there WAYYYYYYYYYYY behind on technology (southern)and its pretty easy to get a good job with a criminal history. I always lied because I didn’t want to have to explain my self I was very embarrassed of what I did. I mainly got caught up in it. My Spouse doesn’t even know Well my spouse never asked so it’s not like I’m hiding anything.
But the people that have REALLY changed get treated like there nothing still. Were still tax payers why should we have to go thru all of this in life. There should be some kinds of laws to this. I’m American but America is nothing but a bunch of macaroni. I think moving to a different country would be best. I wonder how Canada would process back ground stuff. I’m trying to get my spouse to move there. ;) Well any and all feed back greatly appreciated. Good luck everyone!!

[retcop]

The laws in the United States are based on old English Common Law. At it's very basic just like Canada. The difference is our Constitution and Bill of Rights. I visit Canada often and have many friends there. Most would like more "American" freedoms. My point being if the "grass is greener" move. You might also try France or Mexico. If you apply for Canadian citizenship they will ask about felony convictions and yes they do have access to NCIC.

All the time on here individuals complain about ths US and state they are moving yet I do not see a back log of U-Hauls at the exit to anywere but the US lane. :confused:

[welldidyaever]

Sorry to hear the sad stories, Im just now seeking employment and have been in trouble as well, but I had it expunged, it was expensive, and some crimes, depending on what they were, are not eligible for expunction...go to your court house and find out tho... I wish you luck, I hope I can find something too, and telling someone they are stuck for life with a bad mistake is unfair...people change, if we can allow illegal immigrants in our country, we can damn sure pardon our natural citizens of some of their mistakes. :o

[Trina5695]

It depends on what city you live in too. Consider relocating to a city that really needs workers...a growing city. I only have 1 misdemeanor, but it has never even been an issue as far as employment. Check the internet job lists, and by all means submit resumes...Something will come. Best wishes to you.

[Trina5695]

I forgot to add...Make sure the resume is no more than 2 pages long, and plain...no need to fancy it up. Employers just want the facts/information.

[MommaOf4]

Because this is a world where you shouldn't trust anyone. Everyone knows that. But when it comes to finding a job, you'll find that one employer that will take a chance on you, and you have to prove yourself.

I'd suggest you go out and do something for the community so that you can put it on your resume and show everyone that you're ready to give, rather than take!

Volunteering is the best way to go... Start getting involved in youth organizations so that people can see that you know what you did was wrong and that you want kids growing up to know that they should never, ever, ever, ever do what you did.

[Marykne]

im in the process of getting my record expunged and would like to know what the court process is? would i have to speak to the judge? can someone give me an example of what they went thou. :confused:

[BigWill]

:confused: I know what Your going thru and it can and will get better!!! It has to! It's always been easy to give up and throw a brick, but I always told Myself that I would not be like the gray haired men who would never get out again. I have been out now over 10 years, I did over 12 years, once in 1984 for robbery, once in 1988 for a minor drug sale(telling an undercover officer...
"in the building", meaning where she could purchase a $10.00 bag of herion) as I was trying to support a drug habit, and again in 1993 for another sale of herion(this time a low level drug sale $20.00 I made to an undercover officer, again trying to support a drug habit, I have been married over 10 years, have built a work history for that long. Now recently I was let go from My last job, I drove a truck with My regular drivers license. So being that I have over 6 years of driving and delivering experience, I decide to upgrade My license to a tractor trailer drivers license, as truckers are in demand. I got My permit after passing the written test, but now I am at a standstill as I cannot come up with the neccesary funds to get the training I need to get into a tractor trailr driving school. I have tried companies who pay the training, as truckers are in demand but again when We get to the criminal history part of the interview that is where it ends!!! I have been unemployed for the last 6 months, Me and My Wife have been going on peanut butter and jelly but it beats the crap they serve on the inside! I live in N.Y.C. if anyone can assist Me with anything please email Me at yams5600@mypacks.net I am also trying to raise up the funds to get the training I need from a tractor trailer driving school..all donations can be sent to www.asoranodrivingschool.com and yes I have tried "workforce" a government program, but they tell Me everything is at a standstill.

[nicholepottinger]

If you are seriously looking for a job I can help. What kind of felony do you have? What was the amount for? speccially if is was not for violence you should have no problem getting in. Have you ever thought about joining the Army? Well there are alot of ways you can get in. It might be a chance to make a fresh start. How old are you? If you have any questions feel free to contact me. I have been in the Army for 10 yrs now and I love it. Been to Iraq once and would honestly go back. I am a recruiter and can try to answer anything that you may need. Call me 877-587-0600.

[mikejoneswho817]

I was arrested and charged with poss. of a controlled substance under
1/2 gram. Can i still join?

[nicholepottinger]

Were you convicted? Is this the only charge you have? If it is you should have no problem. You will need a waiver but there should be no problem. Were you arrested with an attempt to deliver? Did you serve any time? You should go talk to your local recruiter and see what he can do for you. But if you have any more questions feel free to ask or call 877-587-0600.

[Darthfather]

It’s all about trust. Most of the employers could not trust a convicted felon because they are afraid. There are some who knows how a prison cell looks like from inside. They are not afraid to hire a brother. You just have to look for them.

[stevey67]

I am in total agreement with you regarding slyfox216's comment. There's so much negative happening. Yes, trust is a huge issue amongst our society. But, if a company does hire someone with a mark do you think that they announce it to their vendors and customers? Give me a break. If they do that should be against the law with a right to privacy and possible lawsuit. Then wouldn't the company in itself be BREAKING THE LAW? I am in the same position. I pleaded guilty to committing a white collar crime and spent a year away from my family. A mistake I would never repeat. EVER !!! I have been actively looking for employment since December 06. I've been to 1/2 a dozen placement agencies and have not been placed even for a temporary assisgnment. It hard enough to deal with "MAKING a MISTAKE" already but, to have outsiders turning the knife and placing more guilt on the matter only gives room for discouragement. Our society is losing it's humanity and compassion with each passing decade and not giving second chances.It's sad that the people who are NOT criminals but, people who have made a mistake are left with little dignity. The bible says something like, "forgive thy neighbor as you would ask to be forgiven" but, now a days there are very few individuals that even know what the word forgive means. Or even use it for that matter. So, slyfox16 you must be the only TRUE HONEST being living, or you haven't BEEN CAUGHT YET..If you're still young then there's still time for your mistakes (which I believe you ARE making) to catch up to you...I can go on and on to you but, someday you will feel the affects of how you see others in a negative way and only then (maybe) will you realize how harsh your words of discourgement are felt.

[stevey67]

in the eyes of the law once a felon always a felon :(

It's individuals like you that have no clue to what humanity is..Sure, there are people who make a mistake and learn from them. Back in the day life was about learning from your mistakes and moving FORWARD. But, then there's individuals LIKE YOU who think that they are above and better then others. Everyone, has problems to deal with in life. But, you must live a perfect life where you are in your head. You've never lied, cheated, stole anything? You'd be lying to say NO...God, didn't make any flawless individuals...forgiveness is what this society continues to lack...But, it's a good thing you've never had to ask for it...

[>>Flyboy<<]

You've never lied, cheated, stole anything? You'd be lying to say NO...God, didn't make any flawless individuals...forgiveness is what this society continues to lack...But, it's a good thing you've never had to ask for it...No, she never got caught and now she's flaunting that.

[Hottomalie2]

We do not hire anyone with a felony conviction. We hire if they have only certain misdemeanors. This is getting more and more common. I hate to say it, but once you commit a crime and are convicted then you are more likely to be a repeat offender and the liability is too great. Or, if we hire you with a conviction and you do something while at work, violence or non-violence related, that could hurt us big time. I am not saying you are more apt to commit another crime, but the trend is there.

[jane]

We do not hire anyone with a felony conviction. We hire if they have only certain misdemeanors. This is getting more and more common. I hate to say it, but once you commit a crime and are convicted then you are more likely to be a repeat offender and the liability is too great. Or, if we hire you with a conviction and you do something while at work, violence or non-violence related, that could hurt us big time. I am not saying you are more apt to commit another crime, but the trend is there.
hey hot . jane hear. why do you think i work in a nursing home? i actually applied for ajob in the kitchen. i cooked in prison and i am good at it. they wouldn't hire me for that even though i was more qualified than the fool they hired. i am an orderly/janitor. gigs a gig i guess.

[AngelaBunny]

hey hot . jane hear. why do you think i work in a nursing home? i actually applied for ajob in the kitchen. i cooked in prison and i am good at it. they wouldn't hire me for that even though i was more qualified than the fool they hired. i am an orderly/janitor. gigs a gig i guess.

Working in a nursing home isn't bad, In fact it's rather good. It's actually a very hard place to get into because they don't normally hire convicts.. You are right a gig is a gig ie. a Job is a Job, If it pays the bills, who can complain, right?

I am going to school to be a LPN -Low Paid Nurse- heh.. And I will more than likely have to start out in a nursing home, which freaks me out a bit.. Why? Because I hate seeing people who have done so much, went through so much and are placed in a home because they can no longer care for themselves. It seems unfair, but tiss life..

But, that is treding off topic here.. In my job, where I work now to get through school, we have convicted criminals, though the crime was nothing major, I don't think it's right to descriminate on ones past, and that everyone deserves a second chance, specially if they are more than qualified for the job..

I guess, if you want to get hired or be hired, or are going to hire, you should involve your ( their) social worker, keep updated, and find out as much as you can about that person, and see what sort of changes they have made in their life since they were in prison, that way you at least have an idea on who you are hiring? People can change, some for the better, some for worse, but everyone deserves at least that one shot at a second chance in life..

[jane]

Working in a nursing home isn't bad, In fact it's rather good. It's actually a very hard place to get into because they don't normally hire convicts.. You are right a gig is a gig ie. a Job is a Job, If it pays the bills, who can complain, right?

I am going to school to be a LPN -Low Paid Nurse- heh.. And I will more than likely have to start out in a nursing home, which freaks me out a bit.. Why? Because I hate seeing people who have done so much, went through so much and are placed in a home because they can no longer care for themselves. It seems unfair, but tiss life..

But, that is treding off topic here.. In my job, where I work now to get through school, we have convicted criminals, though the crime was nothing major, I don't think it's right to descriminate on ones past, and that everyone deserves a second chance, specially if they are more than qualified for the job..

I guess, if you want to get hired or be hired, or are going to hire, you should involve your ( their) social worker, keep updated, and find out as much as you can about that person, and see what sort of changes they have made in their life since they were in prison, that way you at least have an idea on who you are hiring? People can change, some for the better, some for worse, but everyone deserves at least that one shot at a second chance in life..
very nice. thank you. i probably wouldn't have gotten the job straight out of halfway if not for my probation o. he likes me. thinks i have a lot of potential. i didn't get the job in the kitchen only because they hired a culinary school grad.(they are cheaper). if you get a job in a nursing or extended care facility beware. it is emotionally draining. i love all the inmates(they know my background and love me almost as much as i love them). we have lost a few in the time i have been here.

[Slowleak]

I read an article a few years back that said 1 in 5 americans at some point will have a run in with the law. it certainly does feel like it. i would hope employers would be hip to that. I am having the same issue. I've been on probation for 6 years for a non violent smallest degree felony, and find it extremely hard to find stable employment. Because i'm on probation and making those payments and paying for my living, going back to school is out of my financial option. i am a hard worker and have not and will not be in any trouble in the future. i do not look for employment in any areas that would be closely related to my past dumbness. i would not want to take one even if they were offered to me b/c i dont want no mistakes like the lady who didnt steal the coat but was fired anyway b/c of her record. that should be illegal.
how would one go about finding which business' accept people like me?

[frak2003]

The only question I have for you, is how long ago were you convicted? When did you complete your sentence/parole etc. If it was longer than 5 years ago maybe you can contact the court and ask for a pardon. At least that's how it works here in Canada, not sure bout the US tho'.

I would suggest maybe trying to do some cash work, at least that way u'll get some money and not have to be asked all sorts of questions in the interview. In Canada, specifically, you have to be bonded (insurance purposes) however if you have been charged and convicted then you are not bondable. Maybe you can find a survival position for now or at least until you are able to get the pardon.

Good luck

[SoCalHomeBiz]

Hi there everyone. The biggest reason for not wanting to hire a felon is the cost. What Cost, the cost of the interview, hiring and training.
With a recitivism rate of almost 80% meaning 8 out of 10 paroles will return to do a violation or new term, so the average employer just can't afford the risk, this of course is assuming non-violent and not a crime of moral terpitude.

My suggestion, and yes I am Very close to the situation, get a job, any job, this in it self makes you more employable, work that job for a minimum of 6 months, even if it sucks then move on from there. It is frustrating but in most instances this is the most efficient method if you are looking at the long term. 6 months of a crummy job is better than any day in State Prison :(

[DVLS_ADVT]

Hi there everyone. The biggest reason for not wanting to hire a felon is the cost. What Cost, the cost of the interview, hiring and training.
With a recitivism rate of almost 80% meaning 8 out of 10 paroles will return to do a violation or new term, so the average employer just can't afford the risk, this of course is assuming non-violent and not a crime of moral terpitude.

My suggestion, and yes I am Very close to the situation, get a job, any job, this in it self makes you more employable, work that job for a minimum of 6 months, even if it sucks then move on from there. It is frustrating but in most instances this is the most efficient method if you are looking at the long term. 6 months of a crummy job is better than any day in State Prison :(Now when you say 80% you meen in the first 3 mounths right? As time goes on month by month and year by yaer that percent declines. Besides the food in the State is much better than the food in the County!

[DVLS_ADVT]

I've actually had my resume done by a professional organization, and I have focused on a specific job....so, I guess I simply have to deal with being a convicted felon and not many people wanting to give me a chance...but I am determined and will hopefully find a job soon.You could always put NO in the "have you ever been convicted of a felony?" box. What do have to loose? Your odds are better that way.

[DVLS_ADVT]

Why would anyone hire someone who has been convicted of a crime violant/or not, you were still convicted. They don't want someone who has been in trouble with the law working for them, it looks bad on them, the company and makes people think twice about purchasing or dealing with the company. Also once you have a record it makes them lose trust in you, that you may never get back from anyoneSurrrrrrrrrrrrre buddy! You know all!:rolleyes:

[squirt]

Well the way I see it is that 911 has alot to do with the way an employer screens people now. Everyone thinks everyone is a bad person, and do back round checks.... I believe in forgiving, and giving someone a chance to improve there lifes. I mean we all make mistakes in life. Most companys only check back 10 years... I am no angle, and it took me 20 years to get the job I have now. i was lucky back when i was hired into the railroad back then there was no backround checking... I wish you luck.. ;)

[carolynw]

You could always put NO in the "have you ever been convicted of a felony?" box. What do have to loose? Your odds are better that way.Tough call! My ex Husband was a convicted Felon and got a Warehouse managers position and WAS honest. He didn't want to cost the owner more time and money on a background check that he had lied on. This may sound like I am attempting to be funny but people who own places like car dealerships, don't care, don't ask. Pete Franklin himself is a two time convicted felon.

[kitchen carts]

I agree to Heytappy, people hurry to judge other people although they don't understand each other. It seems unfair but is the truth...

[riger99]

Side note... Don't they have pardons? :confused:
In some places, you can get a pardon for convictions.

[Swampking]

Wal_mart is....ooopps....nevermind... :(

[femdomprincess]

can one be trusted again?

[The Rock]

I think you'll have to start low.....with the 1st thing you can find & build a "resume". Start looking again after a while & move up...they'll have someone to call for a reference.

[vblaze1970]

Hello fun63111,
Your post might as well have been written by myself. I am a 37 y/o convicted felon, of a non-violent crime, who can not get a job anywhere that I am qualified. As you succinctly put it, I also have as much if not more experience as the interviewers do, and am extremely computer literate, yet fail to land a nice paying job that I am qualified for. The past is the past, as they put it and we all make mistakes, we only have to live and learn. I have done that, am in no danger of repeating those kind of mistakes so my background in that regards should not have any bearing on my work performance. If I can do the job that they need me to do in an satisfactory or above satisfactory manner, who cares about my past? I await your reply, or anyone else's for that matter. Thanks.

[vblaze1970]

FOOD FOR THOUGHT EVERYONE
I am a felon. For more details, you can read my recent post under vblaze1970. If you made a mistake and you have learned from it, then what business is it of anyone else's but yours and whatever powers that be that should know about whatever offense you have.This nation is extremely judgmental, hypocritical, selfish, contradictory and just plain inconsistent with alot of its ideals, principles, etc. Most of the politicians, justice officials, law enforcement officials, some employers also, etc are just as corrupt or even more corrupt (as they have not gotten caught apparently) as the felons that they prosecute (if that applies). So, who is right or wrong here? Who is to judge? Awaiting your reply, Thanks. PS: ONE NEEDS TO LOOK AT ONESELF BEFORE POINTING FINGERS AND ASSIGNING BLAME, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE THE LAW, as 9 times out of 10, they are more corrupt than the people they are convicting.

[millionayr2b]

Hello I'm trying to contact you about a job.

[Thinkbigg]

Most people (convicted felons included) are sitting around licking there own wounds. There are many legal ways to earn money without depending on a traditional employer but you can't see them.

Even if someone were to show you a legal way to earn money you would discount it as not being possible.

[kcmis5]

here in ohio you can have one felon on record and can have that exponged for about 1000

[kcmis5]

Wal_mart is....ooopps....nevermind... :(

i boycot them

[kcmis5]

smile enjoy have fun

[mybiz4u2007]

It is unfair to think that your record will follow you the rest of your life. People change
and should be given a second chance. You can become successful without going to a
J-O-B! Start your own home business and help others do the same.
What the mind can conceive and believe it can achieve!

[mybiz4u2007]

I really like that quote.
"Quitters never win and winners never quit!
I truly believe that you can't find security in a job anymore like
it used to be years ago. I think the ONLY way anyone can find
financial security is in owning their OWN home-based business.
I have heard of too many people working 20- 25 years at a JOB
and then one day they are told they are no longer needed.
If you can find something you enjoy doing working from home
then that's the way to go. Do you agree?
A JOB is great to help you while you work to get your home business
off the ground

[ArmySoldier]

What the mind can conceive and believe it can achieve!
Stupid comment...

[Mr. Tycoon]

I'm a ex felon and I have experienced what it's like to get out and try to find a well paying job only to turned down when they ask that million dollar question "DO YOU A ANY FELONIES?" I even went back to college twice and have to degrees. My second time attending college I found an opportunity that has took my life to a whole nother level and haven't look back since. The internet has really made it possible for the ordinary person to generate wealth as long as they stay focused. So now the people that were having a hard time getting a break in life can finally get a even playing field. But it starts in your mind and what you believe you can achieve you can receive. Those of you that are having a rough time out there, it's going to get better as long as you make an effort to walk toward success. Seek and you shall find and most of all don't dwell on the negative cause what your mind dwells on is what you put out into the universe and what you put out is what comes back to you. Be patient, it builds your character and that's what keeps success in you life.

Much Love People,
Mr. Tycoon

[editors_page]

...did you know the bop.gov posts prison inmates names, numbers and
release date all over search engines? so how does this help? job seekers
see this... i thought when you served your time, "you paid your debt to
society"... yet the prison officials and internet abusers/harassers like to use
this information against people... even 20 years later for one mistake and
no trouble since they still stab you in the back destroying your life and keeping
people at either low paying jobs or no jobs at all. total unfair
bullshit. this is un-american. freedom of speech is used as a 'tool' for
these abusers/harassers. :mad:

FOOD FOR THOUGHT EVERYONE
I am a felon. For more details, you can read my recent post under vblaze1970. If you made a mistake and you have learned from it, then what business is it of anyone else's but yours and whatever powers that be that should know about whatever offense you have.This nation is extremely judgmental, hypocritical, selfish, contradictory and just plain inconsistent with alot of its ideals, principles, etc. Most of the politicians, justice officials, law enforcement officials, some employers also, etc are just as corrupt or even more corrupt (as they have not gotten caught apparently) as the felons that they prosecute (if that applies). So, who is right or wrong here? Who is to judge? Awaiting your reply, Thanks. PS: ONE NEEDS TO LOOK AT ONESELF BEFORE POINTING FINGERS AND ASSIGNING BLAME, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE THE LAW, as 9 times out of 10, they are more corrupt than the people they are convicting.

[Demogirl]

here in ohio you can have one felon on record and can have that exponged for about 1000

Florida it is 75.00 for each charge that is expunged and it depends on if the Judge want to let your charge be expunged .So you can pay the money and they can deny you ,nonrefundable.

[JPinFL]

Unfortunately that's the way it is. Society has ills and uses every other person available as a scapegoat that they can shift their problems on and blame them for them. Rather than look inside and fix what's wrong, shift it elsewhere and let the others deal with the fallout.

exFelons of all types are not even 2nd class citizens anymore. Most people if they were ever caught for past mistakes would be exFelons too and are the same ones pointing fingers and casting blame. Sometimes even current felonies are being commited by these same people.

If you have some highly sought after skill that is in short supply but high demand, you can bank on that to get a job. If you don't have such, research it and get those skills to become employable.

Today the economy is off and business is down in most sectors. Layoffs and business failures are increasing the job seekers while at the same time cutting down the positions available. Look at the job section weekend paper now compared to a year ago, it's half the size or less.

With so many applicants available employers that ARE hiring can be very picky on who they hire. First thing is weed out the bottom of the pile. Those with convictions are automatically ignored. Then those with least work experience. Then those that can't spell or fill out a form. Then those with a poorly done resume or generic "fluff" one. What's left is sorted from the top down. Most experience then most impressive resume, anything else comes after these. The only way to get a job is to be in the top stack.

Until the economy changes and businesses start hiring, you will have a tough go right now.

Depending on your conviction, not all employers are so cynical. Smaller family run operations are more inclined to give a qualified applicant a chance to prove themselves and their worth to the company. Start with them and on the "conviction line" of the job app, don't even check yes/no box, leave it blank & just write "will discuss at interview" and leave it like that. At start of interview steer toward your experience and qualifactions, work ethic (you better show what you say if hired) being dependable, integrity, productive, etc... you want to be a problem solver and handle any task they give you professionally and in as efficient a manner as possible. Try to avoid covering anything about your conviction until you come to that part which should be toward the end of the app and therefore toward the end of the interview. Cover positives first so negatives don't automatically snap closed any of the interviewers cerebral connections. :)

[stacieasaved2day]

J, thanks so much for your post this morning!! Ya know, the crazy thing is that after you fight for the right to work as a convicted felon and you actually land the position of a lifetime, you can become comfortable in your life and "forget" the long-hard-road you just came down to be where you are today. You gave very accurate and good advice in your post this morning and I must agree, it is difficult but it is NOT impossible to achieve your goals.
It is much harder for a convicted felon than the average person and there are many more corners in which we have to turn but the great thing is...is that because we had to make a conscious effort to correct past mistakes and in doing so incorporated extremely valuable skills such as diligence, perseverance, hard work, integrity and responsibility. So just remember that if your a convicted felon just starting out and looking for the "right" position, do NOT give up!! You probably won't get that perfect job right off, but any job you get in the beginning, use it to become more successful! And always keep in your mind that NOTHING in impossible...a little difficult at times...but never impossible!!
Thanks so much J, for reminding me of where I came from and where I am now!! I am extremely blessed to be in the position I am currently and to be able to help others just as I have been helped in the past is invaluable! It's a long and sometimes hard road but so well worth it in the end because not only am I left with financial success but I'm also left with a sense of self-worth for accomplishment both of which I had obviously never had before or I wouldn't have been in the situation I once was to get into trouble!
I have the great pleasure of sharing with others my life story and so forth and in that capacity, I often leave them with this..."I may not be where I want to be but I thank GOD I'm not where I used to be!!
Have an Incredible Day 2Day!!
Stacie A

[rcallsfreedom]

Discrimination stinks in all facets of life there is no doubt....

Have you considered being your own boss and creating your own destiny and financial freedom and not HAVE to report in everyday to an ungrateful Boss?

If you are interested, let me know. There is a light at the end of your tunnel you just need to maybe think out of the box and not depend on someone giving you a break....you need to make your own breaks....

All the best to you........

[stacieasaved2day]

R,
Thanks so much for your post. To answer your question...Yes, I do work for myself now and I am extremely satisfied with my life!! It took some time and a great deal of hard work, discipline and dedication but I've finally reached a certain level of stability. What is it that you do?
Stacie A

[rcallsfreedom]

I am so glad you are doing well and that hard work does not bother you. I have come across so many people that want the luxury of working out of their home but do not want to discipline or commit to what it takes to succeed online. What is it that you are doing now on your own? I am an Internet Marketer and a Stay at home Mom...if you are interested feel free to get back to me...I have a couple of online businesses that I run...have a GREAT day !!!!!!!

[stacieasaved2day]

Yes, hard work is crucial to any sort of success!! I have a very disciplined routine that I follow every day. It has to be that way for me, personally. I realize some people are actually able to accomplish things with out much effort but I am NOT one of those people and I'm OK with it!! What ever works...ya know? Anyway, I would love to talk to you more about your business but I really don't feel comfortable about discussing specific business in a personal forum. I'm sure you can relate. Anyway, my email address is listed under my name if you wouldn't mind emailing me personally. That would be great. I may be interested in what you do if I can incorporate it into what I do.
Thanks so much for the replies. I do appreciate good feed back.
Sincerely,
Stacie A

[emotontairu@yahoo.com]

slyfox216

You are an idiot!

[emotontairu@yahoo.com]

welldidyaever

Thank you for saying that!

[Laligal]

I can understand how some companies wont or can't hire convicted felons. The original poster said he could not get a job even in construction. This I do find a little hard to believe.
I am in the construction business and have a prison in town. I do hire from there on occasion and have had some do work release for me. There is a lot of hoops to jump through. I have had positive experience's with it and if there is a problem with them it gets taken care of right away. They stop by the job to make sure there is no issues and are in contact with you all the time.
Some when released do continue to work for me others have moved on.
I also know several other construction co. in the area and several have felons working for them.

[stacieasaved2day]

Laligal,
You are absolutely correct! Having a conviction doesn't mean that you are worthless! It DOES mean that you have to work a little harder at proving yourself and being more accountable! NOT having accountability is how we ALL get into trouble anyway, convicted or not! Thank you for your post and your honesty. It is appreciated!
Sincerely,
Stacie A

[sbk032]

I feel exactly what you are going through I am a 2 time felon that served prison time almost 10 years ago for a non- violent crime.I am currently a Certified Nursing Assistant for almost 4 years. I have had a numerous amount of turn downs even after being interviewed due to the background check.The blessing is that in NY we have what they call a Certificate Of Good Conduct that is granted to an ex- offender when they have served their time and completed parole.Now, for me I also had to get a Permission letter to work in direct care because of my certification which was granted by our Dept. Of Health.What's really crazy is that even with those documents I am still being discriminated against by many employers. If you need further assistance and may be in the Rochester, NY area I will give you the Hook up for a great lawyer that specialize in helping ex felons like us get back into the working field. Word of wisdom- Try to find a feild that may require a background check like Education, Nursing that dont care about the past as long as it's not abuse related.

[Jaywashere]

depending on your state there should be a branch that does nothing but help felons and ex-convicts find jobs

[sujuncai]

Try this method, go to the company you want to work in and say that they can try you out free for a month, and that if they are not satisfied with your performance, they can sack you at any point of time. If they like your work, they'll definitely keep you, easy as that. Sincerity is the key here. :)

[psscarl]

No shit it is almost imposable finding a job now days if you are a convicted felon
I worked as a engineer for 22 years then i got busted making a little dope now i am fucked as far as working in my chosen profession. So I have chosen to play along with these assholes, Now I sell drugs, Pot mostly not allot but enough to make ends meet. Screw them They are so quick to hand out felonies and prevent us from voting or owning guns, hell i was at the end of my rope and i figured cant beet them JOIN THEM.
I am not advocating illegal means of making a living but,what the hell are you to do give up and move in to a box on the street?????????????????

[Mike7711]

You are what you eat same as you are what you have done. whether you have paid your sentence or not. You have given up your word and people are just downright afraid, and not really by fear but trust.

[Jada]

Okay, yes I am a convicted felon for a non-violent crime. I have many skills and qualifications and am having a very difficult time in finding a job. I've been to just about every employment agency, job banks....nothing at all. I have had interviews and honestly, I have more qualifications and skills then they do and yet I still can't get a job.

I have learned from my mistake and am ready to make a "fresh start"...why can't anyone give me a chance. I don't drink, smoke, do drugs......I am extremely computer literate, have construction skills and much more.

So....if anyone in the Saint Louis area can help me out with a job I would appreciate it. I am a very hard worker, reliable, dependable and willing to learn.

Thank you very much for taking the time to read this.

Don't think you are alone. Regardless of your criminal history, I don't have one and relocated to the midsouth with the promise of a job. I took my whole income tax and moved here. I've been here three months and have searched diligently. Every waking moment I'm using my all to get a job. I don't have any type of criminal history and I'm sinking fast so I definitely know what you're going through. At least there is a reason why they won't hire you, I don't have one. All I can say is hang in there. Stick a fork in me. I'm done. I'll be homeless in one month so what else can I say? No job, no shelter and next no transportation. I'm definitely doomed. Sorry to be the bearer of more bad news. But it is what it is.

[coolmind]

I can Employ u

[domme]

not hard, keep trying