Words Versus Actions

[Joe Neckbone]

On the internet words are used to describe actions, personality, experience, sex, and just about everything else. In person, when words are not as important as actions or failures to act, has it been your experience that internet words talked are ACTUALLY walked ? Or does it seem most people only write words to their advantage and not reality? THE WAY SOME PEOPLE PERCEIVE THEMSELVES on the internet may not be accurate to the truth or fact about how they actually are in person. 9 inches may actually be 6 and so on. True or false.

[Mom]

Interesting question Joe. I AM MOM - sounds like Dr. Suess. I am a member of several other forums - not like this one in the least, so I was "broke in" to forum life being me. I know no other way. I use my real name as my "handle" on those forums. It is just too hard to think up any other name than my own. I think the people who have met me in real life, both from here and other forums, would agree that what you see on the internet is what you get in real life. As to how other people turned out "in the flesh" - they were pretty much as I had preceived them. Maybe I have the ability to sort the chaf and find the wheat and get to the real person even on the internet. I have met Muff, Cowboy and yes Stud - and they were mostly as I expected them to be and the same goes for other forums I am a member of.

And I would venture a guess that you, Joe, would be fairly much as I preceive you now if I were to meet you in person. Caustic sense of humor which takes a little big of getting used to but I appreciate sarcasm; very intelligent conversationalist and easy to talk to and whether you want anyone to know it or not I think you are a softie underneath.

[conomaldito]

Or does it seem most people only write words to their advantage and not reality?

First of all Im cynical when it comes to people on the internet and believe that self promotion is mostly what it's about...

I equate it in a similar way to "fact and oppinion"..

THE WAY SOME PEOPLE PERCEIVE THEMSELVES on the internet may not be accurate to the truth or fact about how they actually are in person. 9 inches may actually be 6 and so on. True or false

Everybody knows themselves better than anyone else will ever do , and we can't fool ourselves so it's not so much the way a person percieves themself as the way they portray themselves to others..

You can only know an internet person by what they tell you..

They will only tell you what they want you to hear..

The internet and reality are two different things for sure... :)

Everyone on the internet will tell you they're a fantastic fuck , and if a past relationship has failed its because the other person was the problem.. (That's my oppinion)

I don't like giving compliments to internet people because I don't know who Im complimenting.. (Thats my choice)

But I do like the internet and especially browsing this forum because it has a few gems and is a good wind-down from everyday general nonsense and contrary to the way I portray myself I do like a good laugh , but unlike many internet people I have never laughed hard enough to fall off my chair.. ;)

I like Saturday morning drinking.

[DJ Prophetic]

I dont know why people would lie about themselves on the internet. Very few of us will ever meet, or interact beyond the text on the screen... so what would be the point of lying? To make yourself feel better? Seem cool to people you wont meet?

I'll tell you something kids. Being yourself is what's really cool.

The more you know. [Overture]

[Keiehart]

I dont know why people would lie about themselves on the internet. Very few of us will ever meet, or interact beyond the text on the screen... so what would be the point of lying? To make yourself feel better? Seem cool to people you wont meet?

I'll tell you something kids. Being yourself is what's really cool.

The more you know. [Overture]

Some people do not like who they are. Being themselves has not gotten them exactly what they want out of life. And the internet provides the chance for anonymity and a chance to create a "life" that is more akin to what they may desire. I'm not saying thats good or healthy, but it happens, and it brings them happiness of a sort. The very fact that few people will meet just increases the draw to become someone you are not.

Also, opening yourself up to many people at once, invites potential criticism, good or bad, and the idea of intentionally making yourself vulnerable is a very daunting thing. Even though people will rarely meet the real person, I can see the reason behind wanting to conceal ones true self online.

so in answer: True. people lie(online AND in real life). for whatever reasons, they do.:( Like it or not, it's up to others so see if they can suss out the truth.

[ksblueyesmale]

Interesting topic, as stated before I have not contributed much in the forum but here is my take on this idea, just one aspect.

This media allows a person to be as shy as needed using only their handle, or as wild as needed such as places like myspace or the various members here that show their wives and body parts in various pictures. What makes this so unique is that in "normal" life these two personality types probably would never meet, let alone talk, but here they can converse and exchange ideas wether they are "real" or not. If one person gains something from the interaction then it was a success.....plus there are always some very nice TnA to look at as well. Just a little joke

Just a quick thought.

[jane]

Some people do not like who they are. Being themselves has not gotten them exactly what they want out of life. And the internet provides the chance for anonymity and a chance to create a "life" that is more akin to what they may desire. I'm not saying thats good or healthy, but it happens, and it brings them happiness of a sort. The very fact that few people will meet just increases the draw to become someone you are not.

Also, opening yourself up to many people at once, invites potential criticism, good or bad, and the idea of intentionally making yourself vulnerable is a very daunting thing. Even though people will rarely meet the real person, I can see the reason behind wanting to conceal ones true self online.

so in answer: True. people lie(online AND in real life). for whatever reasons, they do.:( Like it or not, it's up to others so see if they can suss out the truth.
for some of us this is the only place we can tell the truth. just a peek from the other side of things. i could never tell anyone about my life to this point if i had to look them in the eye.

[Mom]

Interesting topic, as stated before I have not contributed much in the forum but here is my take on this idea, just one aspect.

This media allows a person to be as shy as needed using only their handle, or as wild as needed such as places like myspace or the various members here that show their wives and body parts in various pictures. What makes this so unique is that in "normal" life these two personality types probably would never meet, let alone talk, but here they can converse and exchange ideas wether they are "real" or not. If one person gains something from the interaction then it was a success.....plus there are always some very nice TnA to look at as well. Just a little joke

Just a quick thought.
blueeyes - I really think that they are letting the hidden, real them out. Who they really are or could be or want to be but are affraid that society won't accept.

[DJ Prophetic]

Some people do not like who they are. Being themselves has not gotten them exactly what they want out of life. And the internet provides the chance for anonymity and a chance to create a "life" that is more akin to what they may desire. I'm not saying thats good or healthy, but it happens, and it brings them happiness of a sort. The very fact that few people will meet just increases the draw to become someone you are not.

Also, opening yourself up to many people at once, invites potential criticism, good or bad, and the idea of intentionally making yourself vulnerable is a very daunting thing. Even though people will rarely meet the real person, I can see the reason behind wanting to conceal ones true self online.

so in answer: True. people lie(online AND in real life). for whatever reasons, they do.:( Like it or not, it's up to others so see if they can suss out the truth.

Touche with the thingy over the 'e'.

I guess I've been called an asshole so many times, it doesnt bother me anymore.

It makes sense, that this forum is a form of escape, and as everyone knows, we get addicted to forms of escape-ism. Who wants to be chastized, or made fun of, or called a douche in their fantasy world?

Still, I dont feel it is healthy to develop lies about yourself, or you start to become more depressed that that isnt your life.

Be happy with what you have! Hell, no one is perfect... especially me. But I take what I have in stride... and get smacked around when I open my mouth too much... which is probably my biggest fault.

But it is what makes you who you are. So what if you have only been with 3 women? So what if your tits arent "big enough"? Who the hell cares about how big your willy is... we all know it is how well you can satisfy your partner!

Bah!

[ksblueyesmale]

blueeyes - I really think that they are letting the hidden, real them out. Who they really are or could be or want to be but are affraid that society won't accept.
That is possible Mom, but everyone comes here for different reasons...
Some may not want to let the real them out and others do, others may simple come on here to learn a little about different realms of sex etc.....just as there are different reasons for coming on here...there are many different viewpoints to this topic..but very thought provoking.

[Chocalate darling]

On the internet words are used to describe actions, personality, experience, sex, and just about everything else. In person, when words are not as important as actions or failures to act, has it been your experience that internet words talked are ACTUALLY walked ? Or does it seem most people only write words to their advantage and not reality? THE WAY SOME PEOPLE PERCEIVE THEMSELVES on the internet may not be accurate to the truth or fact about how they actually are in person. 9 inches may actually be 6 and so on. True or false.
Well with me what you see is what you get.....Have been told that I am honest to a fault and if you don't want an honest answer, you shouldn't ask me.I have a hard time putting on fronts so I don't, regardless if I meet anyone from here or not, if you met me in person you would see that I am the same although I think you may find that I am a little more silly and funny. I have pretty much been able to weed out the ones who are real and being themselves on the forum and those are the ones with whom I respect and tend to want to see their replys and opinions on this forum.... it makes no sense to lie about who you are... if you lie to yourself about who you are, what makes you think others won't be able to see through your lies.......I know I talk about sex ALOTTTTTTTTT on here but if you met me in person I would do the same- I am a very sexual person by nature and to some that is good and others it is bad, but I can say this IT IS A PART OF WHO I AM and I share it with the people on the forum honestly ;)

[nocturnal emisions]

Well with me what you see is what you get.....Have been told that I am honest to a fault and if you don't want an honest answer, you shouldn't ask me.I have a hard time putting on fronts so I don't, regardless if I meet anyone from here or not, if you met me in person you would see that I am the same although I think you may find that I am a little more silly and funny. I have pretty much been able to weed out the ones who are real and being themselves on the forum and those are the ones with whom I respect and tend to want to see their replys and opinions on this forum.... it makes no sense to lie about who you are... if you lie to yourself about who you are, what makes you think others won't be able to see through your lies.......I know I talk about sex ALOTTTTTTTTT on here but if you met me in person I would do the same- I am a very sexual person by nature and to some that is good and others it is bad, but I can say this IT IS A PART OF WHO I AM and I share it with the people on the forum honestly ;)

God bless your little heart, baby! There's nothing wrong with that, cause life is too damn short! :D

[Chocalate darling]

God bless your little heart, baby! There's nothing wrong with that, cause life is too damn short! :D
Yes it is, and I always look forward to your posts! ;) :D

[nocturnal emisions]

Yes it is, and I always look forward to your posts! ;) :D

thank you very much! I'm equally interested in anything you have to post on here. ;)

[Joe Neckbone]

I believe that perceptions are not neccessarily reality and that human beings are hard pressed to be objective about themselves or anything else.

I know that with me the internet forces me to use words to describe my actions. Words I would never have to use in person because my actions or failures to act would speak for me. So the challenge is to use the appropriate words to paint a realistic picture. The internet is void of the visual clues we depend on in relationships. You don't see facial expressions or body language. You can't look into somebody's eyes. You can't hear there tone of voice or pattern of speech. You have no sense of emotions. The dialog between people face to face is spontaneous. You can observe if their actions match their words.The internet provides the option to delete or rewrite or ignore. The mask of anonymity should set you free in terms of the truth and facts about yourself being represented to others on line but that same mask can be used to conceal the unpleasent truth in favor of choosing another truth more to your advantage. Often it's lies of omission. Withholding vital information to give a false impression. Remaining silent to alter the other persons capacity to make an informed decision about you. Lies of omission happen off the internet. This unethical method of deception can be seen in the White House so the example is being set for others to follow.

How anybody reaches a conclusion about anybody else on the internet based solely on words typed on a display screen is beyond me.

[jane]

I believe that perceptions are not neccessarily reality and that human beings are hard pressed to be objective about themselves or anything else.

I know that with me the internet forces me to use words to describe my actions. Words I would never have to use in person because my actions or failures to act would speak for me. So the challenge is to use the appropriate words to paint a realistic picture. The internet is void of the visual clues we depend on in relationships. You don't see facial expressions or body language. You can't look into somebody's eyes. You can't hear there tone of voice or pattern of speech. You have no sense of emotions. The dialog between people face to face is spontaneous. You can observe if their actions match their words.The internet provides the option to delete or rewrite or ignore. The mask of anonymity should set you free in terms of the truth and facts about yourself being represented to others on line but that same mask can be used to conceal the unpleasent truth in favor of choosing another truth more to your advantage. Often it's lies of omission. Withholding vital information to give a false impression. Remaining silent to alter the other persons capacity to make an informed decision about you. Lies of omission happen off the internet. This unethical method of deception can be seen in the White House so the example is being set for others to follow.

How anybody reaches a conclusion about anybody else on the internet based solely on words typed on a display screen is beyond me.
instant conclusion. dear god you are long winded

[Joe Neckbone]

Well with me what you see is what you get.....Have been told that I am honest to a fault and if you don't want an honest answer, you shouldn't ask me.I have a hard time putting on fronts so I don't, regardless if I meet anyone from here or not, if you met me in person you would see that I am the same although I think you may find that I am a little more silly and funny. I have pretty much been able to weed out the ones who are real and being themselves on the forum and those are the ones with whom I respect and tend to want to see their replys and opinions on this forum.... it makes no sense to lie about who you are... if you lie to yourself about who you are, what makes you think others won't be able to see through your lies.......I know I talk about sex ALOTTTTTTTTT on here but if you met me in person I would do the same- I am a very sexual person by nature and to some that is good and others it is bad, but I can say this IT IS A PART OF WHO I AM and I share it with the people on the forum honestly ;) Well said C-Darling!YOU may talk about sex here but in person with you I'd let the part of my brain where speech is not involved take over AND KEEP IT REAL.. ;)

[Keiehart]

How anybody reaches a conclusion about anybody else on the internet based solely on words typed on a display screen is beyond me.
If you'll allow me, i'd like to rephrase this sentance...

"How anybody reaches a conclusion about anybody or anything else in life based solely on words on a page is beyond me."

My point? We've been communicating this way ever since we had written language. It's not really a new problem brought on by the internet. It's just now much more wide-spread and easily avaliable. I agree that it's much more difficult to communicate everything you want to through text - thats one of the reasons we have literary tools such as punctuation, bold, italics, underline, not to mention size and color...we even get little smilie faces to help us here on the internet! - And that it's much easier to lie through anonymous text - though many have mastered facial expressions and actions to effectively lie face to face.

Secondly, conclusions do not have to be truthful. If we want a truthful conclusion, we have to seek multiple sources of information and extra evidence. And this is usally accomplished through more interaction, either through text or in person. Like others have said here, it can take time to suss out the lies, but you can eventually understand the truth about someone if you keep talking to them.

[Joe Neckbone]

If you'll allow me, i'd like to rephrase this sentance...

"How anybody reaches a conclusion about anybody or anything else in life based solely on words on a page is beyond me."

My point? We've been communicating this way ever since we had written language. It's not really a new problem brought on by the internet. It's just now much more wide-spread and easily avaliable. I agree that it's much more difficult to communicate everything you want to through text - thats one of the reasons we have literary tools such as punctuation, bold, italics, underline, not to mention size and color...we even get little smilie faces to help us here on the internet! - And that it's much easier to lie through anonymous text - though many have mastered facial expressions and actions to effectively lie face to face.

Secondly, conclusions do not have to be truthful. If we want a truthful conclusion, we have to seek multiple sources of information and extra evidence. And this is usally accomplished through more interaction, either through text or in person. Like others have said here, it can take time to suss out the lies, but you can eventually understand the truth about someone if you keep talking to them.

I'll rephrase your words .....

In the matter of reaching truthfull conclusions about others keep in mind any
conclusion that is not truthfull is not the truth.

Conclusions in which the truth about others is reached can only be arrived at in a process where all less than truthful conclusions are eliminated.

After all erroneous ideas about anything are eliminated what's left is the truth.
It takes time but you can eventually realize what is not the truth about someone if you keep talking to them.

[john32810]

On the internet words are used to describe actions, personality, experience, sex, and just about everything else. In person, when words are not as important as actions or failures to act, has it been your experience that internet words talked are ACTUALLY walked ? Or does it seem most people only write words to their advantage and not reality? THE WAY SOME PEOPLE PERCEIVE THEMSELVES on the internet may not be accurate to the truth or fact about how they actually are in person. 9 inches may actually be 6 and so on. True or false.

through-out this forum as well as other places were i have communicated with others via this type of medium i have be completely honest...I personally see no benefit in being deceptive about who you are and what you are...i can see the main difficulty in getting to know someone thru this format, and it impedes my ability to trust and that is when you meat someone in person you are able to view their eyes and their behavior, which allows a deeper connection i believe than thru the internet. i find it sometimes difficult to properly communicate an idea here, without the face to face. A lot of the times sarcasum (my type of humor) is misunderstood for harshness. i would say that a most of the time when i meet someone via the internet, getting to know them is harder, because...well typical of the dating sites...describe yourself in 150 words or less...yeh right...i would venture to say that most of us are much to complex to be describe in such a limited capacity. the internet does serve well in the introduction capacity.

I opt for the face to face meeting...just so i can look into there eyes.

[dallasswettie]

someone's actions always speak louder than words

[john32810]

someone's actions always speak louder than words

yes thank God

[Mom]

someone's actions always speak louder than words
Amen, little sister, amen