View Full Version : A question for the guys....(and girls) ...Would it be cheating if....
girljo
01-04-2007, 01:31 PM
Here is the scenario:
Your very straight wife or girlfriend, with whom you were in a monogamous relationship with, came home one evening after a day of shopping and told you she was in Victoria's Secret and the sales associate was in the dressing room with her fitting her for a special occasion bra when her hand brushed across your wife's breast causing quite a response in her. They made eye contact both sensing the spark, and then they were kissing, then fondling, then groping each other's wetness until they both exploded with orgasmic delight?
If your wife told you that it happened, would it be cheating?
Just wondering.... since boyjoe and I explored many variations of this scenario in a car ride this weekend this week.
What are your thoughts? Girls, what if the roles were reversed and your man was seduced by another man?
What about a moment of passion like that with a member of the opposite sex? Hot guy seducing your wife, hot woman seducing your man?
AndrewDavid
01-04-2007, 01:39 PM
I would consider it cheating. Even if she told you, it was still cheating with admission of guilt.
If you say that isn't cheating, what is to say either of you can't go out and keep going for *accidental* happenings.
My wife and I have had other partners, but only when both parties are involved, never on our own without the other knowing.
galador
01-04-2007, 01:40 PM
ummm. yes it would still be cheating, but the only thing I would probably ask is why she didnt bring her home so I could watch!!!!!
john32810
01-04-2007, 01:40 PM
Here is the scenario:
Your very straight wife or girlfriend, with whom you were in a monogamous relationship with, came home one evening after a day of shopping and told you she was in Victoria's Secret and the sales associate was in the dressing room with her fitting her for a special occasion bra when her hand brushed across your wife's breast causing quite a response in her. They made eye contact both sensing the spark, and then they were kissing, then fondling, then groping each other's wetness until they both exploded with orgasmic delight?
If your wife told you that it happened, would it be cheating?
Just wondering.... since boyjoe and I explored many variations of this scenario in a car ride this weekend this week.
What are your thoughts? Girls, what if the roles were reversed and your man was seduced by another man?
What about a moment of passion like that with a member of the opposite sex? Hot guy seducing your wife, hot woman seducing your man?
well as is typical of a man...would be very turned on it it were a woman comming on to my wife..but i would not like it if a man did this...but to answer your question...i would consider it cheating...i huge turn on...but cheating none the less (unless there was a previous arrangement)
john32810
01-04-2007, 01:41 PM
ummm. yes it would still be cheating, but the only thing I would probably ask is why she didnt bring her home so I could watch!!!!!
squid agrees with the grunt
Joe999
01-04-2007, 01:43 PM
As much as I enjoy running that scenario through my head, yes, it is absolutely cheating. I have no problem with a female partner experiencing another woman... I have done so on a few occasions. But they have to be upfront and honest about it.
I consider it cheating if the partner did not know before hand and give permission
Darnell
01-04-2007, 01:46 PM
Here is the scenario:
Your very straight wife or girlfriend, with whom you were in a monogamous relationship with, came home one evening after a day of shopping and told you she was in Victoria's Secret and the sales associate was in the dressing room with her fitting her for a special occasion bra when her hand brushed across your wife's breast causing quite a response in her. They made eye contact both sensing the spark, and then they were kissing, then fondling, then groping each other's wetness until they both exploded with orgasmic delight?
If your wife told you that it happened, would it be cheating?
Just wondering.... since boyjoe and I explored many variations of this scenario in a car ride this weekend this week.
What are your thoughts? Girls, what if the roles were reversed and your man was seduced by another man?
What about a moment of passion like that with a member of the opposite sex? Hot guy seducing your wife, hot woman seducing your man?
As long as she brought pictures to show me then I would be cool with it ! Thats why I bought her a cell phone with a camera in it ! :rolleyes: But we have an open arrangement.
girljo
01-04-2007, 01:46 PM
For those that think it is cheating, but a turn on, would it be an easily forgivable offense?
john32810
01-04-2007, 01:47 PM
For those that think it is cheating, but a turn on, would it be an easily forgivable offense?
wife with another woman...yes another man...no way
TheGrizz
01-04-2007, 01:47 PM
Here is the scenario:
Your very straight wife or girlfriend, with whom you were in a monogamous relationship with, came home one evening after a day of shopping and told you she was in Victoria's Secret and the sales associate was in the dressing room with her fitting her for a special occasion bra when her hand brushed across your wife's breast causing quite a response in her. They made eye contact both sensing the spark, and then they were kissing, then fondling, then groping each other's wetness until they both exploded with orgasmic delight?
If your wife told you that it happened, would it be cheating?
Just wondering.... since boyjoe and I explored many variations of this scenario in a car ride this weekend this week.
What are your thoughts? Girls, what if the roles were reversed and your man was seduced by another man?
What about a moment of passion like that with a member of the opposite sex? Hot guy seducing your wife, hot woman seducing your man?
it would be a tragedy not to reveal this to him!!!! be honest with him, tell him EVERY detail, do it again and make a video just so that you can be sure he understands what happened, or bring her home a recreate the scenario....it's the least you could do.....I mean since your cheating on him and all:p
galador
01-04-2007, 01:48 PM
squid agrees with the grunt
we really need to stop doing this.....
john32810
01-04-2007, 01:49 PM
we really need to stop doing this.....
i know..people are beginning to talk
TheGrizz
01-04-2007, 01:49 PM
we really need to stop doing this.....
where's the jar-head when you need him???
wife with another woman...yes another man...no way
what's the difference?
Should women consider it cheating if their man is with another woman but not cheating if he does it with another man?
TheGrizz
01-04-2007, 01:51 PM
what's the difference?
Should women consider it cheating if their man is with another woman but not cheating if he does it with another man?
no mom, you miss the point....if the guy is with another woman, it's cheating. If he's with another man.....well that's just f*cked up!!!!:eek: LOL
girljo
01-04-2007, 01:53 PM
wife with another woman...yes another man...no way
This response aligns with boyjoe's thoughts on the subject. He thought it was cheating but seemed to revel in the details of the question when I put it to him.
If I was with a woman (ONCE) he said he would forgive but I sense he'd haunt me for the details for a long time to come. ;) and photos if available.
RelevantinTX
01-04-2007, 01:53 PM
it would be a tragedy not to reveal this to him!!!! be honest with him, tell him EVERY detail, do it again and make a video just so that you can be sure he understands what happened, or bring her home a recreate the scenario....it's the least you could do.....I mean since your cheating on him and all:p
I agree with the Grizz. In time, and after much contemplation, I could probably find it in my heart to forgive her. I'd also have to replay this from time to time to let her know just how horny... err... I mean how hard this... err... I mean delightful...I mean difficult it is for me to get the thought of her with another woman out of my mind. :D
john32810
01-04-2007, 01:55 PM
I agree with the Grizz. In time, and after much contemplation, I could probably find it in my heart to forgive her. I'd also have to replay this from time to time to let her know just how horny... err... I mean how hard this... err... I mean delightful...I mean difficult it is for me to get the thought of her with another woman out of my mind. :D
you are quite the word wizzard
girljo
01-04-2007, 02:01 PM
what's the difference?
Should women consider it cheating if their man is with another woman but not cheating if he does it with another man?
I think it would all be cheating but that is why I wanted the boy/girl response. men have very different takes on this one than many women will. something about the girl/girl thing that allows men to forget about their morals. standards and attitudes about sex.
I think they are all wrong since the scenario is one in which this so called "monogamous" partner lost all self control. Who's to say losing it with a man or a woman is different? I know damn well, I'd run like hell if boyjoe got down with another man but I'd leave his ass if he cheated on me with another woman too.
Even those that I know who live in open relationships share plans of an escapade in advance rather than fess up to them after they've occurred.
girljo
01-04-2007, 02:03 PM
it would be a tragedy not to reveal this to him!!!! be honest with him, tell him EVERY detail, do it again and make a video just so that you can be sure he understands what happened, or bring her home a recreate the scenario....it's the least you could do.....I mean since your cheating on him and all:p
I agree with the Grizz. In time, and after much contemplation, I could probably find it in my heart to forgive her. I'd also have to replay this from time to time to let her know just how horny... err... I mean how hard this... err... I mean delightful...I mean difficult it is for me to get the thought of her with another woman out of my mind. :D
*shaking head*
Men!
If boyjoe were here, he'd be right along with the two of you.
TheGrizz
01-04-2007, 02:05 PM
[QUOTE=girljo] something about the girl/girl thing that allows men to forget about their morals. QUOTE]
I have to disagree 100% here......we don't forget our morals....but it's not for lack of trying:rolleyes:
TheGrizz
01-04-2007, 02:07 PM
*shaking head*
Men!
If boyjoe were here, he'd be right along with the two of you.
*****high five*****big chug*****belch***** to Relavantin
AndrewDavid
01-04-2007, 02:14 PM
I think it would all be cheating but that is why I wanted the boy/girl response. men have very different takes on this one than many women will. something about the girl/girl thing that allows men to forget about their morals. standards and attitudes about sex.
I think they are all wrong since the scenario is one in which this so called "monogamous" partner lost all self control. Who's to say losing it with a man or a woman is different? I know damn well, I'd run like hell if boyjoe got down with another man but I'd leave his ass if he cheated on me with another woman too.
Even those that I know who live in open relationships share plans of an escapade in advance rather than fess up to them after they've occurred.
It wouldn't matter to me if it was girl/girl or girl/man, I would still consider it cheating, and be hard to forgive. Part of the reason I would find it hard to forgive is it would sit in my mind would be: is she going to do it again. The trust would be broken.
The trust I have in my wife is very high. I used let her go to the bars with her friends while I sit at home (since I am a severe asthmatic the smoke in the bars would make me sick, and want to leave early, so I stopped going). Now I will go once and a while since the bars are no smoking, but when she wants, I let her go out with friends since I trust her and know that she won't do anything.
Now if she were to come back and tell me something like that happenned in a dressing room, the trust I have would be broken and I would argue against her going out to bars alone because of it.
RelevantinTX
01-04-2007, 02:18 PM
*****high five*****big chug*****belch***** to Relavantin
Thank you. To forgive is a good thing... But I'd never forget! :D
... If I could only be so lucky!
girljo
01-04-2007, 02:23 PM
It wouldn't matter to me if it was girl/girl or girl/man, I would still consider it cheating, and be hard to forgive. Part of the reason I would find it hard to forgive is it would sit in my mind would be: is she going to do it again. The trust would be broken.
The trust I have in my wife is very high. I used let her go to the bars with her friends while I sit at home (since I am a severe asthmatic the smoke in the bars would make me sick, and want to leave early, so I stopped going). Now I will go once and a while since the bars are no smoking, but when she wants, I let her go out with friends since I trust her and know that she won't do anything.
Now if she were to come back and tell me something like that happenned in a dressing room, the trust I have would be broken and I would argue against her going out to bars alone because of it.
Hey, I am all for the trust thing and boyjoe's attitude, even though thoroughly turned on by the fantasy, is that the doubt would creep in and he says he would wonder if I preferred a woman to him (the same would be with any cheating situation, we'd come to doubt ourselves and how we "compare" on top of all trust being lost. boyjoe and I have been over these topics a million times and we know where we stand but it is fun to watch him squirm in his seat while driving the switchbacks into Jerome while I ask the questions :p ).
But I do have one question for you? Why would you not trust her to go to the bars without you? If I were you, I would be more leery of her shopping alone. ;)
AndrewDavid
01-04-2007, 04:12 PM
Hey, I am all for the trust thing and boyjoe's attitude, even though thoroughly turned on by the fantasy, is that the doubt would creep in and he says he would wonder if I preferred a woman to him (the same would be with any cheating situation, we'd come to doubt ourselves and how we "compare" on top of all trust being lost. boyjoe and I have been over these topics a million times and we know where we stand but it is fun to watch him squirm in his seat while driving the switchbacks into Jerome while I ask the questions :p ).
But I do have one question for you? Why would you not trust her to go to the bars without you? If I were you, I would be more leery of her shopping alone. ;)
I didnt' say I wouldn't let her go alone, I said:
Now if she were to come back and tell me something like that happenned in a dressing room, the trust I have would be broken and I would argue against her going out to bars alone because of it.
I would only not trust her if she were to come back with a tale about cheating
girljo
01-04-2007, 04:24 PM
I didnt' say I wouldn't let her go alone, I said:
I would only not trust her if she were to come back with a tale about cheating
I read your post too quickly. I was thinking if she came back with a story about cheating while shopping you wouldn't trust her to go to the bar.... sorry, brain meltdown. I was kidding about a play on words but they were all in my own head.
Sorry :o
Joe999
01-06-2007, 11:37 AM
Any breech of trust, reguarding sex or anything else, is not an easily forgivable offense. The fact that it feeds a sexual fantasy wouldn't justify doing something behind your partners back.
muffdiver13
01-06-2007, 11:53 AM
Here goes my .02 (though probably worth less), if that happened with my lady and another woman, I'd have no problem, and no, I wouldn't worry about her liking women more than me. Same goes with her going to the bar. If you are secure in your feelings for the other person, you really don't need to worry. I'm in back t back long distance relationships so I have to be secure that if my lady goes out, she isn't going to throw me over for someone else. If she does, we weren't meant to be anyway.
Joe999
01-06-2007, 12:00 PM
What if it was a guy instead? Does that feeling still apply? She could always say it was just a one time thing, but could you really trust that it was? And if you truly trust her feelings for you then what we're really talking about is an open relationship, where you could sleep with whoever you wanted to, with the understanding that you would still be together.
muffdiver13
01-06-2007, 12:05 PM
What if it was a guy instead? Does that feeling still apply? She could always say it was just a one time thing, but could you really trust that it was? And if you truly trust her feelings for you then what we're really talking about is an open relationship, where you could sleep with whoever you wanted to, with the understanding that you would still be together.
Now this is just me, but yes that would be different. I'm not threatened if my lady likes other girls because most who go both ways prefer on or the other, they like the difference, but ultimately there is a preference. If it turns out she likes girls better, there isn't much I can do about it any way, I have the wrong equipment. But is she loves me ans "slips" with another guy, who's to say it won't happen again, and agian, and again...............
Rudedog
01-06-2007, 12:09 PM
I think sleeping with anyone or any animal for that matter, without your partners knowledge is cheating....doesnt matter how you cut it.
FIREPHD/PA
01-06-2007, 12:54 PM
no mom, you miss the point....if the guy is with another woman, it's cheating. If he's with another man.....well that's just f*cked up!!!!:eek: LOL
You got that right.....
galador
01-06-2007, 12:56 PM
I think sleeping with anyone or any animal for that matter, without your partners knowledge is cheating....doesnt matter how you cut it.
damn so if I screw the pooch, thats cheating??? Does that include the camels over here??? :D:D:D
Rudedog
01-06-2007, 12:58 PM
damn so if I screw the pooch, thats cheating??? Does that include the camels over here??? :D:D:D
As they say on that part of the world...you are baaaaaaaddddd ...hahahahahaha
slrugger
01-06-2007, 01:01 PM
No it wouldn't since she came home and told me about it!