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Orion

08-20-2008, 08:42 PM

Yup - fired her up, chocked her, put her in idle and grabbed the camera. Only with a cub!

Hell...I've done that many times with 310, 421 and even the T/Commander. Necessary sometimes when you have to work by yourself. :D

Did you paint it yourself? There's something really sexy about an old girl like that looking SO GOOD.:)

>>Flyboy<<

08-21-2008, 03:00 AM

always

08-21-2008, 05:59 AM

I'm no expert, but I don't think she's gonna fly. Shouldn't an airplane have wings?!?

:D

Seriously, looks really nice. My wife's cousin has an old Taylorcraft taildragger, and I know how much he loves it.

ViperAg

08-21-2008, 07:57 AM

So Fly, do you actually fly that Penguin thing?

And I thought Evil Kanevil was a dare devil. ;)

I still remember living in Hawaii and my dad taking me up in a Cesna. Scare the living crap out of me when all I could see was the blue ocean. I was 7 or 8 at the time.

madmax

08-21-2008, 10:03 AM

Hey Orion... got a call from Dee. Our "friend" has my steps chrome plated and is sending them to Dee... go figure:rolleyes:

Nice work Fly! Makes me want to get my Kitfox going.

R. Leatherette

08-21-2008, 11:12 AM

Yup - fired her up, chocked her, put her in idle and grabbed the camera. Only with a cub!

sounds like my kinda date!;):D

madmax

08-21-2008, 01:01 PM

Yup - fired her up, chocked her, put her in idle and grabbed the camera. Only with a cub!

You know, if you staged it right, you could've done a re-enactment of Kelso chasing the P-40 out of the gas station!

madmax

08-21-2008, 01:02 PM

sounds like my kinda date!;):D

Ha! Only not in idle - takeoff power!

Orion

08-21-2008, 04:18 PM

She IS gorgeous looking, even with missing parts .... speaking of old girls, this one's back and her dress colours are SO compatible with the bird's!:D

The Cub is not the only gorgeous girl (I didn't say old) in this thread. :D

Orion

08-21-2008, 04:20 PM

Hey Orion... got a call from Dee. Our "friend" has my steps chrome plated and is sending them to Dee... go figure:rolleyes:

Nice work Fly! Makes me want to get my Kitfox going.

I'll be happy for you when you have them in your hand. :rolleyes:

Orion

08-21-2008, 04:25 PM

No - I'm just assembling it. The now defunct "New Taylorcraft" did the restoration. Some things were done well, others were done half assed but they definitely overcharged the owner for what they did.

I think there is a little known FAR that requires Cubs to be test flown by at least 2 separate pilots in Arizona prior to release back the owner...Come on Max...back me up here.

madmax

08-21-2008, 04:49 PM

I think there is a little known FAR that requires Cubs to be test flown by at least 2 separate pilots in Arizona prior to release back the owner...Come on Max...back me up here.

Yeah... Part 23... uh....chapter eleventy-seven... yeah thats it, thats the ticket.

>>Flyboy<<

08-22-2008, 08:08 AM

Thanks folks - hope to have the wings on next week - test flight forthcoming, passengers welcomed, ensure your last will is in order!!!!

Orion

08-22-2008, 08:32 AM

I love flying...but my arms get real tired :D

>>Flyboy<<

08-22-2008, 09:11 AM

So far the only flying I do is by the seat of my pants!:D
Ahhhhhh, ok...;)

Orion

08-22-2008, 02:30 PM

Ahhhhhh, ok...;)

Hey Fly...ya' got the wings on yet? Come on...what's the holdup?

Orion

08-22-2008, 04:22 PM

Yeah, what he says! :D Could use some wings right now. :p Both the edible and inedible varieties!

LC...I talked to S/O and I think we're on for Sunday.:)

>>Flyboy<<

08-22-2008, 05:08 PM

Believe it or not I'm in your state - I'm in Kingman - great place! Visiting my folks, my dad is not doing well so i got the family here.

Otto

08-22-2008, 05:12 PM

Believe it or not I'm in your state - I'm in Kingman - great place! Visiting my folks, my dad is not doing well so i got the family here.

Sorry to hear about your dad, dude. I hope he gets well soon.

Orion

08-22-2008, 05:33 PM

Believe it or not I'm in your state - I'm in Kingman - great place! Visiting my folks, my dad is not doing well so i got the family here.

Hope he returns to normal real soon.

Welcome to AZ anyhow.

>>Flyboy<<

08-22-2008, 09:22 PM

Fly, so sorry to hear about your dad, I hope he recovers soon! Now that you're so close to us, is there a chance you could stop by/fly in? It would be SO great! You know you have a few friends here who would love to be your hosts!:) Even if you don't swing a wrench at an airplane this time! :cool:

Hey appreciate the invite - I think when Max gets his plane closer to completion that may happen.

Sorry to hear about your dad, dude. I hope he gets well soon.

Thanks about my dad all - he's 87, has Alzheimer's and may have some other conditions developing - the family got together and is preparing for the worse but hoping for the best.

Orion

08-22-2008, 10:44 PM

Your S/O or my S/O or both? Well, I know you talked to mine because he called me, to check if it's OK for Sunday after you talked to him.:D So, I guess you guys made the plan. Great. If only Fly could be there too .... What did you have in mind - Monastery? Keep the air theme going?

Works for me. My S/O is unknown till I get a chance to talk to her tonight and find out what I'm doing Sunday, if you know what I mean

I'll let you know bis morgan.

Orion

08-22-2008, 10:48 PM

Hey appreciate the invite - I think when Max gets his plane closer to completion that may happen.

The invite still stands. When 17J gets close I'm sure Max will hold a mandatory Commanders Call.

Orion

08-24-2008, 11:24 AM

How did I miss THIS???? :p:D:D Hey, how 'bout this old girl ... what a combo - its owner with two girls, one with wings the other, well ... ya know ... playing ... the piano, of course! :p

A suitable facsimile she is...not you LC...but that one is German if you look closely. ;)

Orion

08-24-2008, 12:32 PM

And here I thought you were right when you said Canadian - it's the first letter partly hidden by the wing, right? But, the one we're talking about is more beautiful! I like his idea of colour scheme better!

Me too...same as our T/Commander. BTW...there's no "u" in color...:D:D

Orion

08-24-2008, 12:34 PM

Yes there is! In Canada! So there!:p

We're not in Canada anymore Toto

Orion

08-24-2008, 12:41 PM

Oh, but I speak Canadian! Just so I can bug y'all!:p

What's this...southern Canadian:D

madmax

08-24-2008, 01:55 PM

How did I miss THIS???? :p:D:D Hey, how 'bout this old girl ... what a combo - its owner with two girls, one with wings the other, well ... ya know ... playing ... the piano, of course! :p

That one is a TC... not the best variation. Colour looks familiar... I mean color.

Orion

08-24-2008, 02:14 PM

That one is a TC... not the best variation. Colour looks familiar... I mean color.

Have you seen the Turbo installation in the TC? Talk about a bag of snakes.

Yours has been sitting so long...I'm curious as to the condition of the hydraulics. Also... I used to have a NLG downlock pressure guage somewhere. I'll try to find it this week.

I've got some tire valve cores at the hanger too if you need one for the Duc.

Orion

08-24-2008, 02:30 PM

Now this is a Commander:

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r471/orion_7/Planes/NewImage.jpg

Orion

08-24-2008, 05:20 PM

Yeah, tarmac-dragging-bellied beast!! :p:p

Sniff...sob...:(

Orion

08-25-2008, 08:15 AM

Don't be sad; she might not be the sexiest airplane there, but she's a sturdy, reliable and dependable work horse, right?

I've used other descriptions from time to time, but yeah, those will do for now.:D

madmax

08-25-2008, 02:52 PM

Have you seen the Turbo installation in the TC? Talk about a bag of snakes.

Yours has been sitting so long...I'm curious as to the condition of the hydraulics. Also... I used to have a NLG downlock pressure guage somewhere. I'll try to find it this week.

I've got some tire valve cores at the hanger too if you need one for the Duc.

Missed this...
Got to get the girl indoors, on jacks, and rebuild the gear... when it gets below 100F!

>>Flyboy<<

09-01-2008, 01:58 PM

Check the group blog - who's going to Reno????

Orion

09-05-2008, 05:26 PM

Knock, knock .... Orion, is this the basement you were referring to in the other thread? Or, shall we take it to the other flying location, like the group?:)

This is the basement...pull up a chair...can I get you anything to drink?

Orion

09-05-2008, 05:51 PM

Thank you! Yes please, I'd love a drink - could you please fly over to the nearest Canadian city and bring me some original Bloody Caesar? And while you're at it, pick up some Blue for Fly and max. Thank you kindly, sir!:D In return, I'll take care of Guinness for you!

Bloody Caesar...will I need special medical equipment for this poor Caesar fellow. What happened to him? How did he get bloody. Was he attacked by some Brutus?

Orion

09-05-2008, 06:45 PM

Bloody Caesar is a cocktail (is that a cock with a tail?!?!?!? Ahhh , the idiosyncrasies of the English language that make no sense) ... anyway, where was I (ADD)? - It was created by a Canadian cocktail chef for a world competition, and it won. This was many years ago and since then Caesar has become a favourite of millions, including yours truly! :)

Look, Lady...Our drink list is right there on the wall. If you don't see what you want there...get over it. I'll be damned if I'm flying all the way to Hoserland just to get you some cockamaimy cocktail that you probably won't finish anyway. Just who the hell do you think you are anyway? Some world famous concert Pianist that teaches at a world renown university like ASU or something?

PPFFFFFTT...some people.

Orion

09-05-2008, 07:05 PM

Fly...I have 4 new 1-1/2" dia. (measured at the valley) pulleys with 1/4" hole dia. and an assortment of castlenuts in 10-32, 1/4-28, 5/16.

Orion

09-05-2008, 07:38 PM

PPFFFFFTT...right back at ya!:D:D:D You just made my evening - I laughed so hard, I needed that after this week! Thanks, buddy. Now get that drink over here, will ya, and don't doddle, OK? Hurry up already!

I'm cumming...keep your shirt on...no wait...

madmax

09-07-2008, 08:57 PM

I'm cumming...keep your shirt on...no wait...

Take her shirt off so she doesn't sweat when we work on the planes!

DVLS_ADVT

09-07-2008, 09:15 PM

I had a plain like this.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t317/dmboys2/corsair.jpg

madmax

09-07-2008, 10:28 PM

I had a plain like this.
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t317/dmboys2/corsair.jpg

You mean "plane" as in airplane? Still, cool little F4U....

Orion

09-07-2008, 10:53 PM

Take her shirt off so she doesn't sweat when we work on the planes!

Not much chance of that...she just sits in the shade and watches anyway...:D

Besides...if you take her shirt off, we won't get much work done.

DVLS_ADVT

09-08-2008, 08:34 PM

You mean "plane" as in airplane? Still, cool little F4U....Yeah thats it. Just goes to show you I still play in it. LOL One day I'd like the real thing.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t317/dmboys2/corsairplanepic.jpg

Orion

09-09-2008, 06:39 PM

YO...FLY...where are ya boy? You must be working your ass off up there. We expected to hear from you by now.

>>Flyboy<<

09-19-2008, 06:43 PM

RENO!

Pull Chocks!!!!

>>Flyboy<<

09-19-2008, 06:59 PM

Hehehehe....

Orion

09-19-2008, 07:04 PM

Congrats

We're all proud of ya'. Did you get to have any fun, or did you spend the whole time wrenching and prepping?

The Bear is just not what it used to be since Lyle Sheldon was forced out. True, he is a drunk...but he made things happen. I heard they lost 2 cylinders in the gold. That 4360 was not designed to pull that much prop torque.

livelychati

09-19-2008, 07:05 PM

RENO!
Pull Chocks!!!!
Hehehehe....YESSSSS!!!! CONGRATS BIG GUY !!!!! Here's a B I G hug for ya!!!! :D
Lively over and out ... taking my 22-yr old son (today) for his b-day dinner! Flew him in from Vancouver for this ... well, and for a few days at home with mommy - like guys really like THAT. :p:D

>>Flyboy<<

09-19-2008, 07:09 PM

Thanks folks - as a mechanic it was one of the, if not the most rewarding adventure that I have ever undertaken. Didn't get to do much much fixing some things that broke - the banquet was fun!:D

The day we all meet I'll give some other details - again thanks for all your support!!!!!! You guys as too cool!!!!:cool:

PS - Orion, you're right about Lyle....

Orion

09-19-2008, 07:09 PM

That's one hell of a business card.

What was your overall speed??

>>Flyboy<<

09-19-2008, 07:10 PM

YESSSSS!!!! CONGRATS BIG GUY !!!!! Here's a B I G hug for ya!!!! :D
Lively over and out ... taking my 22-yr old son (today) for his b-day dinner! Flew him in from Vancouver for this ... well, and for a few days at home with mommy - like guys really like THAT. :p:DHave a great time with your son!!!!!

>>Flyboy<<

09-19-2008, 07:10 PM

That's one hell of a business card.

What was your overall speed??
We qualed at 515.8 something

Orion

09-19-2008, 07:14 PM

We qualed at 515.8 something

Is the airframe original or has it been clipped?

>>Flyboy<<

09-19-2008, 07:15 PM

Is the airframe original or has it been clipped?Original - just took out the back seat and some antennas - we could of lost some 300 lbs had we had time to mod it - NEXT YEAR!!!!;)

>>Flyboy<<

09-19-2008, 07:20 PM

I clocked one lap at 523 mph....

madmax

09-19-2008, 08:38 PM

Original - just took out the back seat and some antennas - we could of lost some 300 lbs had we had time to mod it - NEXT YEAR!!!!;)

need an 8110??? lol

madmax

09-19-2008, 08:39 PM

Hehehehe....

Very cool!!!

>>Flyboy<<

09-20-2008, 07:46 AM

need an 8110??? lolhehehehehe.......:D

Orion

09-20-2008, 09:01 AM

Hey guys...check this (http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/05/14/photos.rocketman/index.html) out

>>Flyboy<<

09-20-2008, 02:23 PM

too cool!!

Orion

09-21-2008, 02:08 PM

Details (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jG0BXp_9oVplha8CEgjTEC9rH0eAD93AFGJ80)on the plane crash we discussed yesterday: it was in South Carolina, not California as I initially thought.

A Lear 60...sparks on T.O. roll. That might be your next project Max.

Hope it was a blown tire or maybe a bird that doesn't have the guts to go there again.

Orion

09-21-2008, 03:53 PM

Or, maybe someone left a rag in the intake????:p

Very possible...it's been done before. :mad:

madmax

09-21-2008, 05:27 PM

A Lear 60...sparks on T.O. roll. That might be your next project Max.

Hope it was a blown tire or maybe a bird that doesn't have the guts to go there again.

My stuff is all new aircraft/engines. Only if this results in an AC.

Orion

10-06-2008, 08:00 PM

IMPORTED FROM POLITICS

Originally Posted by >>Flyboy<< View Post
Oh yea - in all these markets you know there's winners and losers...

BTW - have you looked at airplane prices lately? Full IFR low time mid 70s 182s selling for under 60K. Just last year the same plane was going for 75 or 80K. I saw a Dakota going for 35K, again full panel, mid-time TBO, etc.

But yet light sport stuff is slowing going up in value. I think this Cub I'm building will actually get over 30K once I get it completed.

The market for twins has tanked and some singles are not far behind. A lot of it has to do with ADs coming up or due. Eng & Airframe time vs ADs. Some ADs are projected to cost more than the worth of the bird or close.

There is a difference between what you and I remember as "full IFR" and today's panels. I've had people tell me they can't generate buying interest unless the bird has a glass panel. That tells you who today's airplane buyers are.

If the Dakota's Lycoming has a hollow crank...there's your answer. Lots of hidden pitfalls in the acft market. Believe it or not, the only sector of the market that is holding it's own is turbine. VLJs are having a rough time getting a foothold unless they have the backing of long established manufacturers but Biz jets are still going strong. The econ downturn may negate that...too early to tell.

A potential buyer with the ability to do his own maintenance and some cash burning a hole in his pocket, could nail down a real good buy if he kept a close eye on the market. Know anyone like that, Fly?? Trade a Plane is like watching a stock ticker.

Orion

10-06-2008, 08:17 PM

>>Flyboy<<

10-10-2008, 04:33 AM

Fly...Your Cub should net more than 30K...way more...with fresh engine, paint and interior, It could go as high as 50 to 60K if you can find the right buyer. Nostalgia is one of the only top selling points left. It looks real good in the pics and I'm sure you've been meticulous in assembly. That one's a keeper.
Its been a bit tough though - the pukes who covered it did a mediocre job - some of the tape seams are wrong and there's a lot of little issues with the interior - nothing there that can't be fixed in time.

>>Flyboy<<

10-10-2008, 04:39 AM

IMPORTED FROM POLITICS

The market for twins has tanked and some singles are not far behind. A lot of it has to do with ADs coming up or due. Eng & Airframe time vs ADs. Some ADs are projected to cost more than the worth of the bird or close.

There is a difference between what you and I remember as "full IFR" and today's panels. I've had people tell me they can't generate buying interest unless the bird has a glass panel. That tells you who today's airplane buyers are.

If the Dakota's Lycoming has a hollow crank...there's your answer. Lots of hidden pitfalls in the acft market. Believe it or not, the only sector of the market that is holding it's own is turbine. VLJs are having a rough time getting a foothold unless they have the backing of long established manufacturers but Biz jets are still going strong. The econ downturn may negate that...too early to tell.

A potential buyer with the ability to do his own maintenance and some cash burning a hole in his pocket, could nail down a real good buy if he kept a close eye on the market. Know anyone like that, Fly?? Trade a Plane is like watching a stock ticker.
Agree about Trade a Plane.

I didn't see if the Dakota had a hollow crank - I actually know how to do the mag particle inspection, did one a few years ago.

I'm kind of sitting and waiting - when I'm done with the cub I'd love to get into another project, something closer to home (the cub is a considerable distance from my home).

I have some cash but don't want to tap out my savings, especially in these times and i don't want to finance my recreation. I'm hoping to stumble into a project or a wreck I could get somewhat cheap and salvage, again wishful thinking.

madmax

10-10-2008, 08:47 AM

I got a 152... without wings. LOL
wait... why am I laughing???

Orion

10-10-2008, 05:50 PM

I got a 152... without wings. LOL
wait... why am I laughing???

Rute strikes again...I think he is the AntiChrist.

Orion

10-26-2008, 04:22 PM

Hey Fly...there is a guy here on FFZ that is letting a Super Cub go for 60K, reduced from 75K, 6 months ago. Your's ought to bring way more than 30K.

ArmySoldier

10-26-2008, 04:39 PM

Hey Fly...there is a guy here on FFZ that is letting a Super Cub go for 60K, reduced from 75K, 6 months ago. Your's ought to bring way more than 30K.
http://www.supercub.org/photoclass/showcat.php?cat=4

>>Flyboy<<

10-26-2008, 04:51 PM

Hey Fly...there is a guy here on FFZ that is letting a Super Cub go for 60K, reduced from 75K, 6 months ago. Your's ought to bring way more than 30K.I'm hoping! LSA seem to be holding their value. As soon as I get 10 hours on it I'm going to aggressively market it.

Army - thanks for the link. I know of those folks and do go on there once and a while.

livelychati

11-02-2008, 05:59 PM

Hey Fly...there is a guy here on FFZ that is letting a Super Cub go for 60K, reduced from 75K, 6 months ago. Your's ought to bring way more than 30K.
Drove by there last night, was at a friend's 40th b-day party in the neighbourhood ... thought about you ... Guinness ... Monastery and Nello's ... funny, wasn't thinking planes ... weird! :cool: We should all get together for all of the above soon!!!!

Orion

11-04-2008, 06:48 AM

Drove by there last night, was at a friend's 40th b-day party in the neighbourhood ... thought about you ... Guinness ... Monastery and Nello's ... funny, wasn't thinking planes ... weird! :cool: We should all get together for all of the above soon!!!!

Works for me. :D

livelychati

11-05-2008, 10:04 AM

Works for me. :D
We now have more than one reason to celebrate! :):):)

>>Flyboy<<

11-06-2008, 04:48 AM

Hopefully taxi tests next week.

Orion

11-06-2008, 07:06 AM

Looks great Fly. Brings back many sweet memories. Good luck on taxi checks.

madmax

11-06-2008, 08:16 AM

Looks sweet! But what a crowded panel! LOL
Actually, that is beautiful in its simplicity.

livelychati

11-06-2008, 08:52 AM

She is a beauty! A classic! Looking at the photos (although I'd much rather be in the original!) brings back an era ... I am just so emotional after seeing the photos, especially the control panel and the interior. I can just imagine it taking off .... :):):) Great job, Fly!

>>Flyboy<<

11-06-2008, 02:33 PM

Thanks all, I'll keep ya's updated.

Orion

11-20-2008, 07:02 PM

Well...14 days and no progress report...What are you waitin' for...Christmas? :D

livelychati

11-20-2008, 08:00 PM

Well...14 days and no progress report...What are you waitin' for...Christmas? :D
Yeah, what he says!!!! :confused::confused::confused:

What's new???? Any cub news coming up any time soon?? C'mon Fly, we're so eager to see, read, hear ... all of the above! :)

>>Flyboy<<

03-20-2009, 04:32 PM

First Flight Today!

Hope to have pics later this week!

madmax

03-20-2009, 05:40 PM

First Flight Today!

Hope to have pics later this week!

Cool! Around the pattern or a little farther?

>>Flyboy<<

03-20-2009, 05:44 PM

Just in the pattern - made it real long, almost 15 minutes, the landing sucked!

livelychati

03-20-2009, 05:44 PM

First Flight Today!

Hope to have pics later this week!
CONGRATS!!!!!

Btw. it IS the end of the week ... where are the pics, huh???:p

livelychati

03-20-2009, 05:45 PM

Just in the pattern - made it real long, almost 15 minutes, the landing sucked!:eek::eek::eek::eek: Care to share what happened???

>>Flyboy<<

03-20-2009, 05:47 PM

Flared high, ran off the runway, but got her back on, no damage to plane or pilot.

livelychati

03-20-2009, 05:50 PM

Flared high, ran off the runway, but got her back on, no damage to plane or pilot.Except for ... but, you know what I said already!:eek::p

>>Flyboy<<

03-20-2009, 05:56 PM

Yep! I hardly slept last night knowing I was going to fly a 62 year old airplane that hasn't flown in 30 years!!!!

livelychati

03-20-2009, 06:07 PM

Yep! I hardly slept last night knowing I was going to fly a 62 year old airplane that hasn't flown in 30 years!!!!Orion says "HI, great news" - just talked to him, he barely landed when I reached him (was out of town for a while).

>>Flyboy<<

03-20-2009, 06:17 PM

Orion says "HI, great news" - just talked to him, he barely landed when I reached him (was out of town for a while).
Thanks for letting him know! I'm ready for bed - knocked down a few beers after this flight, glad to know now that the ole girl will hold together!

livelychati

03-20-2009, 06:27 PM

Thanks for letting him know! I'm ready for bed - knocked down a few beers after this flight, glad to know now that the ole girl will hold together!Yeah, both from relief and for celebration!!! :D:D:D Have a good rest!!! Now you can fly the girl over here!:):):)

madmax

03-20-2009, 08:18 PM

Just in the pattern - made it real long, almost 15 minutes, the landing sucked!

For all of you non-pilots out there - that is still a good landing.
A good landing is any you can walk away from... a great landing is one where you can use the plane again.

But "grease" IS the word.:D

livelychati

03-20-2009, 08:23 PM

Orion

03-21-2009, 08:22 AM

Congrats Fly. :D

Don't worry about the landing. She has forgotten a lot in the last 30 years. It'll come back to her quickly. :D

Was she stable? Wing wash checked out OK?

Orion

03-21-2009, 11:52 AM

For all of you non-pilots out there - that is still a good landing.
A good landing is any you can walk away from... a great landing is one where you can use the plane again.

But "grease" IS the word.:D

But you still have to watch out for those pesky runways that have a habit of moving out from under you at the last minute...I hate it when that happens. :D

Try landing on a runway full of potholes like the one at Whiskey Creek in Silver City, NM. Dodge and weave...:eek:

Orion

03-21-2009, 12:58 PM

Here is an example of a cub, not put together so pretty good.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cb_1226732432

>>Flyboy<<

03-21-2009, 01:00 PM

Congrats Fly. :D

Don't worry about the landing. She has forgotten a lot in the last 30 years. It'll come back to her quickly. :D

Was she stable? Wing wash checked out OK?

Thanks!!!

She was as stable as a rock. Set the trim in neutral and moved it maybe once during the flight. I did and extensive preflight and when I did the weight and balance both plane an I had a ramp weight of 1006 pounds!

The landing - did flare high because at the last minute I changed my mind like a bone head and thought I could pull out a 3 point landing after the first bounce I knew immediately what I did - by that time the plane veered right - I resisted the urge to slam left rudder so I just let her roll and slowly imputed left rudder while shoving the stick in my belly and eventually made my way back on the runway. The lady who owned the plane was freaking out but was glad to see all was well.

When I got back to the hangar she was in tears (maybe because of my landing:rolleyes:). I think the last time the plane flew was 1978.

>>Flyboy<<

03-21-2009, 01:06 PM

Here is an example of a cub, not put together so pretty good.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cb_1226732432

Mine wasn't quite that bad, close, but at least the wings stayed on.

BTW this Cub I just flew is for sale - $36K OBO.

Orion

03-21-2009, 04:24 PM

Thanks!!!

She was as stable as a rock. Set the trim in neutral and moved it maybe once during the flight. I did and extensive preflight and when I did the weight and balance both plane an I had a ramp weight of 1006 pounds!

The landing - did flare high because at the last minute I changed my mind like a bone head and thought I could pull out a 3 point landing after the first bounce I knew immediately what I did - by that time the plane veered right - I resisted the urge to slam left rudder so I just let her roll and slowly imputed left rudder while shoving the stick in my belly and eventually made my way back on the runway. The lady who owned the plane was freaking out but was glad to see all was well.

When I got back to the hangar she was in tears (maybe because of my landing:rolleyes:). I think the last time the plane flew was 1978.

Get back on the horse this weekend and show it who's boss. "Decide, Commit, Execute."

Orion

03-21-2009, 04:32 PM

Mine wasn't quite that bad, close, but at least the wings stayed on.

BTW this Cub I just flew is for sale - $36K OBO.

J-3 "0" TSO?
How much restoration on the AF and total time on AF?
What cloth type and how old?
Original brakes or Cleveland Conv.?
Damage history (excluding yesterday :p :D)

Finder's fee = Pitcher of Guinness, served cold and in person. ;)

>>Flyboy<<

03-21-2009, 04:44 PM

J-3 "0" TSO?
How much restoration on the AF and total time on AF?
What cloth type and how old?
Original brakes or Cleveland Conv.?
Damage history (excluding yesterday :p :D)

Finder's fee = Pitcher of Guinness, served cold and in person. ;)

The beginning of the Barnstormers and Trade a Plane add.

"FOR SALE 46 J3, C65 engine, 3268.9 TTAF, about 3.0 TSMOH engine. Aircraft was completely recovered with Stitts 2 years ago and was recently assembled and annualed. Original log books from day one."

Original brakes, damage on MLG about 40 years ago (factory repair done, blue prints in aircraft records)

Pitcher of Guinness? I'll buy you a case and load it in your refrigerator in person!!!!!!

Orion

03-21-2009, 05:00 PM

The beginning of the Barnstormers and Trade a Plane add.

"FOR SALE 46 J3, C65 engine, 3268.9 TTAF, about 3.0 TSMOH engine. Aircraft was completely recovered with Stitts 2 years ago and was recently assembled and annualed. Original log books from day one."

Original brakes, damage on MLG about 40 years ago (factory repair done, blue prints in aircraft records)

Pitcher of Guinness? I'll buy you a case and load it in your refrigerator in person!!!!!!

OK. I'll talk it up here and in Silver City next week. Guinness has to be "on tap" and you have to be there to pour the first round...right Max? LC?

I know 2 people right now who are looking for a little TD'er to have fun with. I don't know how much they have to spend but i will hook-up with them this week. Film at eleven. ;)

madmax

03-21-2009, 05:13 PM

madmax

03-21-2009, 05:16 PM

The beginning of the Barnstormers and Trade a Plane add.

"FOR SALE 46 J3, C65 engine, 3268.9 TTAF, about 3.0 TSMOH engine. Aircraft was completely recovered with Stitts 2 years ago and was recently assembled and annualed. Original log books from day one."

Original brakes, damage on MLG about 40 years ago (factory repair done, blue prints in aircraft records)

Pitcher of Guinness? I'll buy you a case and load it in your refrigerator in person!!!!!!

A guy I work with was looking. May be a bit rich for him, but with the "0" time and restoration...who knows?

madmax

03-21-2009, 05:17 PM

Orion - just came back fromm FFZ for some reassembly. Ran into the guy I was looking for, a Mooney with a 360 tuned exhaust.

Orion

03-21-2009, 05:44 PM

Orion - just came back fromm FFZ for some reassembly. Ran into the guy I was looking for, a Mooney with a 360 tuned exhaust.

Did you get blueprints or pictures...maybe something as insignificant as an...STC? ;)

How far did you get with the strut?

Orion

03-21-2009, 05:48 PM

Speaking of dragging ass - I have a Kitfox in my garage.
Fly is coming down here...even if we have to Shanghai his ass.

Colorado is not that far. We could throw an oven in the back of your Toyota and go up there, stuff him inside and haul his ass back down here. :D

Shouldn't take more than 12 of us. :p

>>Flyboy<<

03-21-2009, 05:50 PM

OK. I'll talk it up here and in Silver City next week. Guinness has to be "on tap" and you have to be there to pour the first round...right Max? LC?

I know 2 people right now who are looking for a little TD'er to have fun with. I don't know how much they have to spend but i will hook-up with them this week. Film at eleven. ;)
GREAT! If any of them are serious I'll talk more on the price.

Speaking of dragging ass - I have a Kitfox in my garage.
Fly is coming down here...even if we have to Shanghai his ass.

Should I bring bail money?:D

A guy I work with was looking. May be a bit rich for him, but with the "0" time and restoration...who knows?

Very cool!!!

BTW when I started her up I pulled through the prop about 8 or 9 times, then went for the start on the L mag - fired up on the first pull!

Orion

03-21-2009, 05:58 PM

GREAT! If any of them are serious I'll talk more on the price.

OK...I'll use 36K as a starting point. PM me your # or Email addy or both and if I can generate interest, I'll have them give you a call or Email. I'll call you first and let you know how easy they were so you'll know if you have to horse trade or not.

BTW when I started her up I pulled through the prop about 8 or 9 times, then went for the start on the L mag - fired up on the first pull!

Damn...this brings back wonderful memories. Thanks. ;)

>>Flyboy<<

03-21-2009, 06:07 PM

OK...I'll use 36K as a starting point. PM me your # or Email addy or both and if I can generate interest, I'll have them give you a call or Email. I'll call you first and let you know how easy they were so you'll know if you have to horse trade or not. Wilco

Damn...this brings back wonderful memories. Thanks. ;)
She has a few flaws but right now no showstoppers

ArmySoldier

03-21-2009, 06:54 PM

wilco
Finally...Something I understand!!!

madmax

03-21-2009, 07:18 PM

colorado is not that far. We could throw an oven in the back of your toyota and go up there, stuff him inside and haul his ass back down here. :d

shouldn't take more than 12 of us. :p

lmao!

madmax

03-21-2009, 07:23 PM

Did you get blueprints or pictures...maybe something as insignificant as an...STC? ;)

How far did you get with the strut?

Got the bolts back in for the forward trunion mount, trial fit of the lower arm.
new seals are on the cylinder...but the inner cylinder has to come apart for seals inside of it! Only had an hour and a half out there - burned the first half hour with the guy with the exhaust. He didn't have it with him - meeting him on tuesday to inspect and measure.

Orion

03-21-2009, 07:59 PM

Finally...Something I understand!!!

Shit...you understand everything we've said here. You ain't foolin' nobody. :D

There are a bunch of Chopper Air-Evac outfits out here like Omniflight and Southwest AirEvac who are hurting for "Rotorsticks". Get busy and get that school behind you...somebody's got to fly those fuckin' contraptions.

livelychati

03-21-2009, 11:41 PM

BTW when I started her up I pulled through the prop about 8 or 9 times, then went for the start on the L mag - fired up on the first pull!Mmmmmmm ... that sounds SOOOOO good!!! Wish I was there to hear, experience and see it all!!!:(

ArmySoldier

03-22-2009, 09:24 AM

There are a bunch of Chopper Air-Evac outfits out here like Omniflight and Southwest AirEvac who are hurting for "Rotorsticks". Get busy and get that school behind you...somebody's got to fly those fuckin' contraptions.
Not sure now...I've been "tentatively" offered a job with the federal government in a few months. It pays great money in an area I want to be in doing something that I don't find mind numbing. So...who knows.

Orion

03-22-2009, 09:34 AM

Not sure now...I've been "tentatively" offered a job with the federal government in a few months. It pays great money in an area I want to be in doing something that I don't find mind numbing. So...who knows.

Good news. That "GS" pay is definitely better than "GI" pay. I hope you get the job. :)

ArmySoldier

03-22-2009, 09:39 AM

Good news. That "GS" pay is definitely better than "GI" pay. I hope you get the job. :)
I still have to do another interview and drive down to meet them. If I get it, I'm only getting -9 to start, but the -11 that will be above me is retiring in 19 months and I will replace him. Then I will have to fight and file just like the rest of 'em for ups. Either way...I will make more money in a place that is about 60-70% of the cost of living compared to this shit hole I'm in now.

Orion

03-22-2009, 09:44 AM

I still have to do another interview and drive down to meet them. If I get it, I'm only getting -9 to start, but the -11 that will be above me is retiring in 19 months and I will replace him. Then I will have to fight and file just like the rest of 'em for ups. Either way...I will make more money in a place that is about 60-70% of the cost of living compared to this shit hole I'm in now.

There will be a lot of politics involved in the selection process so keep your feathers numbered going in. ;)

>>Flyboy<<

03-22-2009, 11:54 AM

Photos!!!!!

Orion

03-22-2009, 12:58 PM

Good shots, Fly.

madmax

03-22-2009, 01:49 PM

No trail of parts on the runway - good landing!:D

No parts falling of it in the sky - good mechanic!;)

>>Flyboy<<

03-22-2009, 05:35 PM

No trail of parts on the runway - good landing!:D

No parts falling of it in the sky - good mechanic!;)

:D LOL! No oil trails or people wearing helmets to protect them from falling debris!

Orion

03-22-2009, 07:20 PM

:D LOL! No oil trails or people wearing helmets to protect them from falling debris!

Did you fly it anymore this weekend?

>>Flyboy<<

03-23-2009, 04:31 AM

Did you fly it anymore this weekend?
No - I wish I could of but I had other things going on. I probably won't be able to do much till the end of the week because of weather.

livelychati

03-25-2009, 07:15 PM

Anyone know anything more about this? F-22 Crashed in CA (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/F_22_CRASH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2009-03-25-21-41-10) during testing.

madmax

03-25-2009, 07:52 PM

Orion

03-26-2009, 09:00 PM

Anyone know anything more about this? F-22 Crashed in CA (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/F_22_CRASH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2009-03-25-21-41-10) during testing.

What goes up must also come down. Sometimes, the latter happens with extreme prejudice. If the cause was mechanical or structural and not human error, lessons will be learned from the mishap. The cause will be corrected and future losses will be avoided. That's why they call it "Flight Testing". Every test pilot knows the odds and his training and skills are the only weapons he has to combat catastrophe...jus' sayin'.

livelychati

03-26-2009, 10:08 PM

What goes up must also come down. Sometimes, the latter happens with extreme prejudice. If the cause was mechanical or structural and not human error, lessons will be learned from the mishap. The cause will be corrected and future losses will be avoided. That's why they call it "Flight Testing". Every test pilot knows the odds and his training and skills are the only weapons he has to combat catastrophe...jus' sayin'.I know ... every time they take off they don't know what the outcome would be ... Still a tragedy. How long will it take to figure it all out, certainly not a couple of weeks? Perhaps Mr. DER can tell us?

madmax

03-26-2009, 10:11 PM

Being a test flight there was a lot of data recording, more than likely. They will have it narrowed down in days, probably won't go public for a while after that.

Orion: Saturday is the LAST Roadrunners home game!

livelychati

03-26-2009, 10:17 PM

madmax

03-26-2009, 10:25 PM

You still trying to convert him into a hockey fan???:eek:

Hell, watching "Slapshot" would do it!

livelychati

03-26-2009, 10:26 PM

Hell, watching "Slapshot" would do it!:p:p:p Good idea - like hockey intro 101 .... :D Add some Guinness and it's a done deal, I'm sure!:cool:

Orion

03-27-2009, 07:44 AM

Orion: Saturday is the LAST Roadrunners home game!

Then Saturday it is. What's the weather like inside the arena? Coat needed?

madmax

03-27-2009, 08:31 AM

Then Saturday it is. What's the weather like inside the arena? Coat needed?

Should be about 60F in there, maybe as high as 70F.

Orion

03-28-2009, 08:45 AM

Should be about 60F in there, maybe as high as 70F.

OK...I'll have my people get with your people to set up a time and place to meet.

After the blizzard Fly got, he's probably playing hockey on his driveway...(with a snow shovel)

>>Flyboy<<

03-28-2009, 09:09 AM

After the blizzard Fly got, he's probably playing hockey on his driveway...(with a snow shovel)
:D

Actually I invested in a snow blower a few years ago. It still took me about an hour to totally clear my driveway and back deck. We got about 18 inches where I'm at, a lot of drifts, but by noon yesterday, a lot of it melted away.

Today the streets are cleared and dry, and the snow is melting away!

BTW - nice talking to you yesterday!

Orion

03-28-2009, 09:46 AM

:D

Actually I invested in a snow blower a few years ago. It still took me about an hour to totally clear my driveway and back deck. We got about 18 inches where I'm at, a lot of drifts, but by noon yesterday, a lot of it melted away.

Today the streets are cleared and dry, and the snow is melting away!

BTW - nice talking to you yesterday!

You too. Being able to put a voice to a name can help cement a cyber-friendship until we all actually get together for a meet and greet. :)

Your "Cell" anomaly explains why I had so much trouble getting connected when trying to call you. ;)