sex offenders and what should be done.

[concerned_fiance]

:confused: I want your opinion on this guys. I am 21 and i have a young child. Well considering the fact that i am getting married to what everyone else would call a "moster" because he is a "sex offender." But in all honesty not all of the people with that label should even have it. I have known my fiance for 6 years now. the accusations put against him were totally "dreamed up" because of a jelous ex and her family. so in truth not all "sex offenders" or their families have to be punished by having their children taken away. What do you think should be done with the sex offenders who ether have no intention on doing it in the first place and were "wrongly convicted" or have faced life with it and are trying to move on and have a family of their own.. Any one know the laws for living with sex offenders and what i should do? :(

[blueeyesindallas]

i would have several concerns. are you blinded by love and don't want to see what may be true. also, what type of charges are we talking about? sex offenses covers a lot of ground. now if i am wrong and you are correct then you have to understand that you two will be dealing with this probably your whole life. can you handle that stress?

[retcop]

How old is your fiance and how old was the victim? There several types of offenses classified under sex. If your fiance's victim was child then he is probably a pedofile or fixated. The fact that you have a child should tell you what to do.....

[Tony_is_a_tiger]

I'm not surprised. Just as there are people put on death row who are innocent and proven so after it is too late in may cases, i'm sure there are people who are convicted as sex offenders and labeled as such wrongly. As with those on death row, you must fight to clear your name, a good lawyer and trust in the legal system may prevail. Meanwhile live a good life and realize that it's happening for a reason. Who knows what it is but you may be making it easier for other like yourself in the future. Keep up the fight.

[somedudeinFL]

Hi Concerned_Fiance.....I would proceed cautiously. You were not there and did not witness what he was suspected of doing. So many people can say "oh but he seems like such a nice sex offender...keeps to himself and wouldnt harm anyone ".....Remember, there were victims involved supposedly. These victims have to live with that dysfunction the rest of their lives.

Also, some people's brains are wired one way. Some people are good con artists. Some people only want you to see things their way and will not reveal their sick demented side until it's too late. What should happen if you this fiance of yours decides he is going to have some kind of relapse with your kid. Now what? Your decision to be with this person has now directly impacted your child. Think about it. Im sorry but I do not have any sympathy for sex offenders especially if the victims were innocent children. In my opinion people that harm children should be labotimized/castrated so they can never harm anyone again.

First of all, you are too young to be getting married. What you want now is not what you will want in 10 years from now. Your tastes change. Your thoughts change. What you want out of life will eventually change too. Be careful.

[skybitsdotcom]

I personally do not like to judge anyone without the facts. I know how to read, and don't need someone to decide for me, what my opinion should be about someone else. Information is great, but not concrete facts. I never understood why anyone 100% totally decided to put a negative label on someone else, without ever meeting them, talking to them, or anything at all....and solely doing it because of what another person said.

I dated a man with the ego license plate of I1 (pronounced eye one). He is the biggest gossip mouth, who constantly uses language and tone of voice with emotional conviction deciding what other people think, feel, and intentions are in life. The person he is talking to usually is somehow dumb enough to believe him without any facts at all. I've seen this for almost three years straight, and it also included cooberated stories using me as a target to strangers not known to me as well.

Because of this experience, and seeing many other people do this among each other, I can truelly understand how being labeled a 'sex offender' can be done by someone who is using the guy as a target. When you are a target with a label done by someone who does not care about you, and is able to manipulate others; then the only hope you have is to repeat the truth with conviction. Put all the details out on the table because you have nothing to hide. This is a great healing process as well, especially if you should not be burdened with defending yourself from another person's nasty mouth. You must do your best to reveal the label comes from the mind of the one speaking it, not from you doing anything to earn that label. That goes for any negative label from anyone. I know what it is like to be targeted and doing your best to 'defend' yourself and even 'stand up to' the one targeting you. Well that does not work. Trust me. The one running their mouth will never stop doing it. Because my ex is able to constantly watch over me online to create more stories, I will always be myself as I always was before him, plus with the conviction of speaking out. If I was to hide from him, then it would appear as if he is telling the truth.

And the one telling the lies about you...well their mouth runs longer than the energizer bunny on steroids! I can bet you a million dollars they have many other things in their life that is based on imagination, whether it be books, movies, farorites, etc. As in my house, you will not find one story type thing anywhere, only factualy study type stuff. In my ex's house, you will find tons of computer video creations from imagination, movies, tons and tons of writings in notebooks, emails of constant negative opinions all over the place. But he is telling the 100% truth where I do not have one say so at all??? I totally understand your position.

You can only control your own behaviors, not theirs, so be convicted in telling the truth and the whole truth. Do not lash back at the other person in an opinionated way, but tell the truth in showing how the other person is lieing. Do not say things that decide why the other person is doing anything? Only tell the facts. Honest people will know the truth and know the one with the label is not a 'sex offender' or whatever the label may be.

Laura Gullett
Cleveland, OH

[n00b420]

dont be quick to judge, Its not easy living life as a sex affender and it only makes it harder to know your loved ones dont trust you or cant trust you...

just do what you think you need to do, keep an eye open at all times but dont let on or make him feel like you dont trust him around your kid...

people like to make somthing out of nothing, after all we are human.

[Okie]

Welll, If it was me, I would presume the worst about this guy. You never can tell by looking and can be blinded by your affections for him. There is a couple that live in the small town near me who took in children from the state for years. I thought they were the salt of the earth till the State Police called and asked if I had seen the guy. Seems he had been molesting his minor daughter for years and finally impregnated her. He went to prison for a long time, but the morons at the parole board let him loose after just a few years. His wife, who either is the dumbest woman in recorded history, or perhaps knew about him and for some unfathomable reason chose to remain silent has took him right back into the same house. I guess what I am trying to say is be very careful! Sexual preditors can look and act normal and fool about any one.

[shai]

In response to Conerned. Before you marry your honey think about these facts. inocent or not he has been branded. All the things that the rst of the world take for granted will be thrown out of the window. Finding housing in decent neighborhoods. Finding jobs. if you choose to work with kids, in some states, you won't be hired because of you honey's status.
No matter, where you go there will always be that stigma frm closed minded people. Depending on the are that you live in, you, your, hhoney and children are targets for vigilante reactions. His face might be plastered on the internet.If he has a PO, YOur neighbors will get a visit from his PO. Some people will get on the internet and take it up on themselves to make flyers, to "protect" the children. This is just he begining. Every state has different laws.
Remeber, that all anyone has to to is make an accusation. Your life will be turned upside down.
If you think that you have the strenghth to face this kind of opposion from a so-called free society... Marry your honey.
I am speaking from experiance. My present husband of 3 years is nothing less than a Prince. But we have had to face all the above issues.
Would I do it over? You beter believ I would. My last two husbands were not SO"S. and they were't worth used toilet paper. They also weren't SO's.
Most So's never repeat their mistake. Only the real sickos continue all the path of seeking out new vixtims.
For anyone reading this, Don't get caught peeing behind a tree or dumpster, as in many states you will have to register for the rest of your life as a sex offender. And ladies if you are watching out while he peeing, your can also be charged as an accessary, and become a covicted SO too. yes, that means you hav to register as a sex offender.

[somedudeinFL]

Give me a break Shai.l...Peeing behind a dumpster? Perhaps at a elementary school while kids on recess maybe.....Is that the line your "third" husband gave you?

[n00b420]

Give me a break Shai.l...Peeing behind a dumpster? Perhaps at a elementary school while kids on recess maybe.....Is that the line your "third" husband gave you?


if your caught peeing in public its considered public indecency

[retcop]

:eek: You should not make blanket statements about crime classifications all jurisdictions differ even in the same state. A drunk caught peeing in Kansas City MO is charged with urinating in public. In the adjoining cities of Grandiew, Belton, Raymore and Harrsonville it is classified as indecent exposure a sex crime......

[somedudeinFL]

I do not understand all this urinary freedom in our society. Thats why gas stations and 7-11's were invented. Perhaps if people used them more frequently the number of these incidents would decrease. Actually, in all seriousness, there is a huge unmistakeable difference between urinating and stroking in public.

I suppose there are other areas of the country that laws differ. In my experience, (Not urinary in any form), urinating in public is a class one misdemeanor. I believe if a child is in the vicinity and witnesses the act then you have a major problem. Most of the time it's some sick twisted freak who is exposing himself to young kids. Yeah thats always there defense..."Your honor, I swear, I was only urinating in public"......

[Beelzebub]

Interesting web sitePut in your address and find sex-offenders who live NEAR YOU. Click on a dot and it shows you their PICTURE!

http://familywatchdog.us/

[PurpleWolf50]

convicted, proven guilty beyond any shadow, sex offenders need to be shot. they have no rights, they need to be removed from any chance to be around children forever. I do not apologize for this opinion, shoot them. :cool:

[n00b420]

convicted, proven guilty beyond any shadow, sex offenders need to be shot. they have no rights, they need to be removed from any chance to be around children forever. I do not apologize for this opinion, shoot them. :cool:


people with such little minds :rolleyes:

[somedudeinFL]

n00b420.....There is such a concept in this world known as decency. There are many who feel strongly that Sexual Offenders/Predators should not be around children. I am one of the many who feel this way. I too, believe they should not be allowed around children period. Why is that so hard for you to understand? I believe people have their right to an opinion. PurpleWolf wants them shot. That is is opinion. Right or wrong who are you to call him simple-minded because you do not agree with his opinion?

[n00b420]

n00b420.....There is such a concept in this world known as decency. There are many who feel strongly that Sexual Offenders/Predators should not be around children. I am one of the many who feel this way. I too, believe they should not be allowed around children period. Why is that so hard for you to understand? I believe people have their right to an opinion. PurpleWolf wants them shot. That is is opinion. Right or wrong who are you to call him simple-minded because you do not agree with his opinion?


because when you use the term sex offender it opens the whole category at once and i strongly believe not ALL sex offenders are bad, or atleast deserve a second chance.


and they do not let sex offenders around kids here in texas, in fact they even make you have someone with you when your with your own kid... now thats just fucked up....

[PurpleWolf50]

Anyone who is sick enough to sexually molest a child is not worthy of a second chance! They are beyond normal and the best thing is to take them out! Call it what you want I would be happy to be the one to take care of the situation, pull the trigger, flip the switch, tighten the noose. Children need to be protected from these pervs! Dont mess with Texas!

[hazman6969]

I agree with purple shoot them. There is no rason to harm children when sex is all around for everyone of consent age.


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[>>Flyboy<<]

I strongly believe not ALL sex offenders are bad, or atleast deserve a second chance.Any adult who molests a kid (and I'm not talking the 19 year old having sex with his 17 year old girlfriend) should be shot! Let one molest one of your kids and see what its like!!!

You're a bleeding heart pinhead!! If you had a half a brain you'd be 500% retarded!!!!!!!!!!

[somedudeinFL]

because when you use the term sex offender it opens the whole category at once and i strongly believe not ALL sex offenders are bad, or atleast deserve a second chance.


and they do not let sex offenders around kids here in texas, in fact they even make you have someone with you when your with your own kid... now thats just fucked up....


Awwwwww...Poor Sex Offenders....Maybe we should change the wording back to CHILD MOLESTOR. Would that suit your need? We are talking about offenders who harm children. Anyone who harms a child really in my opinion should be castrated and then shot....Hey thats really too bad in Texas...If you that sick and cant have a little thing called restraint in this life and actually keep in it your pants then too F'ing bad about being around your kids supervised......There's a valid reason why you sub-human douchebag.....Unbelieveable....

[n00b420]

so all sex offenders molest kids??? thats a new one for me :rolleyes:

[>>Flyboy<<]

so all sex offenders molest kids??? thats a new one for me :rolleyes:That was never said, read the whole post pinhead!!! :mad:

[SO Hunter]

First off I am new, but do want to add that soon many states will cease to register people that have a 5 year difference in age as a sex offender. You know the Romeo and Juliet syndrome. So when this is accomplished all arguments about wrongly convicted sex offenders will be a moot point. Then you can figure 99% of RSO will be some pretty bad guys.

The five years being under and over the age of consent laws

[thiefofhearts85]

convicted, proven guilty beyond any shadow, sex offenders need to be shot. they have no rights, they need to be removed from any chance to be around children forever. I do not apologize for this opinion, shoot them. :cool:


No matter what the charge or circumstances?

[GoneApeShit]

Anyone who is sick enough to sexually molest a child is not worthy of a second chance! They are beyond normal and the best thing is to take them out! Call it what you want I would be happy to be the one to take care of the situation, pull the trigger, flip the switch, tighten the noose. Children need to be protected from these pervs! Dont mess with Texas!

I agree that any adult who finds pleasure in abusing children and/or is willing to emotionally scar someone for life to satisfy their fetish should be treated like a family dog who all of a sudden bites or attacks someone. You cut his nuts off or you send him to k9 heaven.

I feel almost as stongly about a pud who beats his girl or kids when he gets pissed.


But if you are male in the United States , you need to be aware that you can be accused and convicted of this sick crime almost without a trial or fair chance to defend yourself on any given day of your life following your 18th birthday.

I dont know why it is, but thats the way it is.

[SO Hunter]

I tend to agree with you to a certain extent....there are some very devious women in the world....but quite honestly, I personally don't know anyone who has been wrongfully convicted of rape or for that matter rightfully convicted....I just don't hang out with persons who seem to be at the wrong place at the wrong time....probably didn't word that the way I meant...its just this....a person can go his entire life with out a criminal conviction...its takes common sense....not putting yourself in a jeopardizing situation and knowing who you are dealing with....I am not saying it doesn't happen to people ....I just dont think its common that's all...if a person watches their P's and Q's in life....they usually don't walk around with a dark cloud over their head...but my above post about taking the Romeo and Juliet offenders off the table, will go a long way in protecting young men, unjustly accused and or convicted....

[SO Hunter]

so all sex offenders molest kids??? thats a new one for me :rolleyes:

No not all victims of choice are children...sex offenders victims range the gambit of ages and sexes.

[GoneApeShit]

I agree that common sense will keep you out of sticky situations.
But this goes out the window in when facing a divorce or break up situation the young lady described. When children are involved in a break-up. I tend to think that the majority of people accused and convicted of molestation are
not guilty of anything but deciding to part ways with a partner and that partner stands to lose or look bad in the breakup. The accusation does not even need to come from girlfriend or wife, it can come from anyone of her family members or friends and it does not even need to be a direct accusation. It takes very little to get protective services notified of possible child abuse, but once they decide they might have a case your in a losing battle. Even if your ex goes to court and fights for your side afterward, you still have only a marginal chance of being found not guilty.

[queentawanda]

Even if your ex goes to court and fights for your side afterward, you still have only a marginal chance of being found not guilty.

thats not true at all. as a matter of fact its the opposite! the chances you are going to be found guilty are very slim, unless you have multiple victims coming foward against you. that is why it is so hard to get a conviction.

[SO Hunter]

:confused: I want your opinion on this guys. I am 21 and i have a young child. Well considering the fact that i am getting married to what everyone else would call a "moster" because he is a "sex offender." But in all honesty not all of the people with that label should even have it. I have known my fiance for 6 years now. the accusations put against him were totally "dreamed up" because of a jelous ex and her family. so in truth not all "sex offenders" or their families have to be punished by having their children taken away. What do you think should be done with the sex offenders who ether have no intention on doing it in the first place and were "wrongly convicted" or have faced life with it and are trying to move on and have a family of their own.. Any one know the laws for living with sex offenders and what i should do? :(

First off, if you want to remain his friend, I say go for it, but to legally bind yourself to a convicted felon is idiotic...and irresponsible of you as a mother. You should give yourself and your child a fighting chance in life and you wont be able to do that with a convicted sex offender...sweetie this guy has gotten his life (nuts) in a vise..he will romance anyone he can just to have an Ali in his new (convicted) life. Are you prepared to support all of you when he cant get hired because of his status? Are you prepared to move everytime your neighbor makes a stink about you living by them? How about your child, with the new laws, are you prepared to go to school without your husband because he needs special clearance before he can set foot on school grounds? Look life is tough enough, why would you willingly invite such grief for your self and child? Your young, and the fact you mention you have no husband, alone and with a small child, tells me you might not have made the best decisions for yourself previously, its not an insult, just an observation...say thanks but no thanks...your too young to be a martyr..

[PaybackTime]

I have experienced your delima first hand, and have overcome any bigotries that have come our way. In fact, we have changed the medical field at MIT and other leading research facilities. And yes, convicted S.O. AND ALL! I think that love is not blind, and to say that because some is convicted and will be nice just because that feel self pity and have a low self esteem is not only ignorant to social constructs, but ingores the pyschological bounderies surrounding this type of status and behavior. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Most people have some level of common sense, but also are motivated with fear. This being said, be sure to know who you live with, but don't listen to other people that are neither well educated in the matter nor just run on subjected rhetoric. Everyone has an opinion, it is important to let reason and your heart tell you what to do.

Whenever, something happens, people overreact and create socialogical issues that end up costing lives, money and time. Sex offenders and their status are just another political compassion that politicians use to give them better votes. You have a better chance of getting hit by a drunk driver, robbed at gun point, or bitten by a rabbid dog then having your loved ones effected. As for the US definition of sexual conduct, in some states, you can go nude in public beaches, hot springs, etc. But in neighboring states you would be not only convicted, but sent to prison for lewd contact with a minor.

Can a convicted SO live in a nice house, have a nice career and support you and your family together???? I used to wonder the same thing! But today I living in a beautiful house, have lovely children who understand how our "Legal" system (not justice system) works. And yes, I am a doctor and make well over a quarter of a million annually! For those that feel no one can make it!!! :rolleyes:


Education is the only key. If you think that I don't have any anger and feel like getting even with ignorant emotionally run individuals, you would be wrong. With 500,000 US convicted Sex offenders, (1/2 half the size of the US military) it is time for people to start understanding, that oppression is oppression and as history proves over and over again, people will pull together to fight tyrany and other acts that will cause a person to fear for their family and their lives.

Note: We have never had any community backlash, mainly because we are not around too many nosey people and violence is a means to an end. Perhaps understanding that you don't need to live in fear and you can become educated about the subject, have open communication and stand together.

Good Luck to you both! :D

[Payback2]

I have experienced your delima first hand, and have overcome any bigotries that have come our way. In fact, we have changed the medical field at MIT and other leading research facilities. And yes, convicted S.O. AND ALL! I think that love is not blind, and to say that because some is convicted and will be nice just because that feel self pity and have a low self esteem is not only ignorant to social constructs, but ingores the pyschological bounderies surrounding this type of status and behavior. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Most people have some level of common sense, but also are motivated with fear. This being said, be sure to know who you live with, but don't listen to other people that are neither well educated in the matter nor just run on subjected rhetoric. Everyone has an opinion, it is important to let reason and your heart tell you what to do.

Whenever, something happens, people overreact and create socialogical issues that end up costing lives, money and time. Sex offenders and their status are just another political compassion that politicians use to give them better votes. You have a better chance of getting hit by a drunk driver, robbed at gun point, or bitten by a rabbid dog then having your loved ones effected. As for the US definition of sexual conduct, in some states, you can go nude in public beaches, hot springs, etc. But in neighboring states you would be not only convicted, but sent to prison for lewd contact with a minor.

Can a convicted SO live in a nice house, have a nice career and support you and your family together???? I used to wonder the same thing! But today I living in a beautiful house, have lovely children who understand how our "Legal" system (not justice system) works. And yes, I am a doctor and make well over a quarter of a million annually! For those that feel no one can make it!!! :rolleyes:


Education is the only key. If you think that I don't have any anger and feel like getting even with ignorant emotionally run individuals, you would be wrong. With 500,000 US convicted Sex offenders, (1/2 half the size of the US military) it is time for people to start understanding, that oppression is oppression and as history proves over and over again, people will pull together to fight tyrany and other acts that will cause a person to fear for their family and their lives.

Note: We have never had any community backlash, mainly because we are not around too many nosey people and violence is a means to an end. Perhaps understanding that you don't need to live in fear and you can become educated about the subject, have open communication and stand together.

Good Luck to you both! :D
I succeeded in my life convicted S.O and all as you put it.I own my own business .Just think if i had listened to all those people who doomed me before i had a chance to succeed. Success is the best life you can live!I have never experienced any retaliation in my neighborhood or place of business.Success is the best life you can live! I own my own home , own business and support my family :)

Any fool can make a rule, and any fool will mind it.
Henry David Thoreau

Men are born to succeed, not fail.
Henry David Thoreau

[Shelley]

In response to Conerned. Before you marry your honey think about these facts. inocent or not he has been branded. All the things that the rst of the world take for granted will be thrown out of the window. Finding housing in decent neighborhoods. Finding jobs. if you choose to work with kids, in some states, you won't be hired because of you honey's status.
No matter, where you go there will always be that stigma frm closed minded people. Depending on the are that you live in, you, your, hhoney and children are targets for vigilante reactions. His face might be plastered on the internet.If he has a PO, YOur neighbors will get a visit from his PO. Some people will get on the internet and take it up on themselves to make flyers, to "protect" the children. This is just he begining. Every state has different laws.
Remeber, that all anyone has to to is make an accusation. Your life will be turned upside down.
If you think that you have the strenghth to face this kind of opposion from a so-called free society... Marry your honey.
I am speaking from experiance. My present husband of 3 years is nothing less than a Prince. But we have had to face all the above issues.
Would I do it over? You beter believ I would. My last two husbands were not SO"S. and they were't worth used toilet paper. They also weren't SO's.
Most So's never repeat their mistake. Only the real sickos continue all the path of seeking out new vixtims.
For anyone reading this, Don't get caught peeing behind a tree or dumpster, as in many states you will have to register for the rest of your life as a sex offender. And ladies if you are watching out while he peeing, your can also be charged as an accessary, and become a covicted SO too. yes, that means you hav to register as a sex offender.

I am the soon to be wife of a registered sex offender. Only he didn't do it. What he did do was a drug deal and the woman accused him and the other three of rape - no physical evidence, no DNA (this was in 1985). But he pleaded guilty to the rape because the DA was "piling charges" on him, threatening him with 30 years in jail. He ended up with 90 days and a huge fine, 10 years probation and a sex offender registry requirement.

My one concern about marrying him is vigilantism (the economics we have figured out!) He is considered a Level 1 offender (with 3 being the worst) due to the 21 years' passage and his lack of a record. But I do worry about vigilantism? What can I do to protect myself?

Also - a final thought. I read the internet forums and being a college educated person, I can see that this witch hunt against sex offenders is very much like McCarthyism, the early 1980s satanic cults and the Salem witch trials. It is getting so ridiculous that I see Americans eventually growing their common sense when they realize politicians, sensationalistic media and child abuse advocacy groups have overstepped their bounds. I just don't know how long it will be.

[BlkKitty]

...its takes common sense....


Some one once said " common sense is not all that common".

I am a strong believer that if you do not put yourself in the position to be accused then, you more than likely won't. That maybe nieve of me to believe this but, it is also nieve to believe that a person would rather take a charge of being a sex offender, when they didn't do it and not fight to have their name cleared if they are truely innocent. An accusation is not enough to convict in a court of law, it may be enough to accuse but, not convict. I have not read all the postings but, some of them sound ridiculous. It sounds to me like some are making excuses for people who choose a lifestyle.

To the Concerned, what you have is a man who has choosen to be labeled as a sex offender.
To not fight oppression is to be in agreement with that same oppression.
What you need to decide is whether or not you want to be one to (SO)? You and your children will then become sex offenders? Whether he did it or not is not relevent at this time, because he isn't doing anything to correct the issue. That is just a mute point. The point is, he is a SO. And can you truly look your children in the eye when he does it to them, and are you willing to take the chance? I say visit the worst case scenerio and if you can handle the preprocutions of your actions then, say yes and move on. But, if you can't, say no, sometimes it is better safe than sorry.

[Attyhere]

An accusation is not enough to convict in a court of law, it may be enough to accuse but, not convict.

To say that "accusations cannot lead to a conviction" is very naive statement to make. I believe that false convictions occur in every category of crime. False convictions occur for two reasons:

1) The standard of proof in criminal cases is "beyond a reasonable doubt." In my jurisdiction, juries are instructed that "a reasonable doubt" means a doubt based on reason, NOT a "whimsical or fantastical" doubt. In other words, our criminal justice system does not require that juries find proof to a mathematical certainty. If our system required a higher standard of proof, I doubt that our criminal justice system would be able to function. There is usually no way to know to a 100% mathematical certainty whether a defendant is guilty.

2) The criminal justice system is only as good as the fallible human beings in it. In any given case, the system is only as good and only as fair as the police officers, prosecutors, defense attorneys, judges, witnesses and jurors involved in that case. There are certainly a lot of protections for the accused built into the system-- but I've seen and read about cases that seem to be just a cluster of errors at every level of the system.

[BlkKitty]

:confused: ... the accusations put against him were totally "dreamed up" because of a jelous ex and her family... :(


This is what I am referring to when I say that an accusation is not the only thing that is required in obtain a conviction. There has to be some evidence to suggest that the crime did occur and that the accused was the one who committed the crime. What I am getting at is not that there aren't people who are wrongly convicted but, that there is something missing in this story. Something is untold. There needs to be further investigation or either she chooses not to validate the other information she has. If she is going on the basis of her fiance's word then, I would suggest getting a second opinion who isn't directly related emotionally to this issue.

[lightlover]

Awwwwww...Poor Sex Offenders....Maybe we should change the wording back to CHILD MOLESTOR. Would that suit your need? We are talking about offenders who harm children. Anyone who harms a child really in my opinion should be castrated and then shot....Hey thats really too bad in Texas...If you that sick and cant have a little thing called restraint in this life and actually keep in it your pants then too F'ing bad about being around your kids supervised......There's a valid reason why you sub-human douchebag.....Unbelieveable....
For a person who (aparently) LIVES in Florida, you OBVIOUSLY don't get OUT, much or pay much attention to the media-- to bring to EVERY ONE'S attention the TRUTH about how MESSED UP the state of Florida's laws are, (as well as MANY other states) and to bring TOTAL attention to this "somedudeinfl's" complete and utter IGNORANCE-- PAY ATTENTION TO THIS-- in Florida, where I live with my husband and 3 children. 9 years ago, my husband (whom was just my best FRIEND, at the time) was 19, was dating a girl whom LOOKED to be (at LEAST) 21 or 22 years old, carried an altered i.d. (it was still possible, back then, as the cards were still laminated) ended up telling him she was pregnant and confessed her true age (later on to find out, once it was too late) that she wasn't pregnant, but my (now husband) went to his father who turned him in (only to protect HIMSELF, due to his high county position, NOT out of spite), the girl's PARENTS didn't press charges, but the state of FLORIDA did. My husband WAS able to receive a lighter sentence of probation, but (out of fear, at his young age) he "ran" and was picked up on violation of probation; when this sentence was original (when he was given probation) he was charged as an "unlawful minor", but when he was arrested on vop, THEN he was convicted as a sex offender (although STILL charged as a youth). Now, I agree that he should not have violated PROBATION, but the FACT of the matter, is that if he was not convicted as a "sex offender", ORIGINALLY, then he should not have been arrested and convicted of a "sex offence" at the time of the VOP, EITHER, but merely as a youthful offender violating say, "contributing to the delinquency of a minor", or something of THAT sort. Needless to say, in the 5 years that he and I have been together, it has been HELL, but I love him DEARLY, and he has NEVER gotten into trouble with the law, either BEFORE or SINCE, for the same offence. My children have gotten into fights, over trying to "defend" and "protect" their dad. My husband cannot attend any school events, and since we are reborn Christians, we are involved a GREAT deal with the church, but my youngest son's school just happens to be IN one of the churches we attend, and due to Florida's laws, regarding registered sex offenders, my husband cannot even attend worship service, now that the Sr. Pastor has discovered his situation (just as his father, out of ACCOUNTABILITY, not spite). As mentioned in other posts, on MANY different web sites, related to this same contriversy, the law does NOT differentiate between an older man, molesting a young child, and a young adult having a sexual RELATIONSHIP with a consensual TEENAGER. My MOTHER was only 15, when she married my father, and he was 32!!-- back in the "DAY" a 14 or 15 year old girl was considered an "old maid" if she WASN'T yet married, having children. NOW they call these SAME girls that we ALL have seen on numerous TALK shows "victims" when they are 12 years old, wearing 10 lbs. of makeup, VERY {physically} developed, wearing next to NO clothes, sleeping with SO MANY GUYS that they don't know who they're "baby's daddy" is, and roaming the STREETS until ALL hours of the night, not in school-- (you've seen them-- we ALL have) then these poor young men who fall into to their TRAPS, because they THEMSELVES are young (remember ALSO, it's ALWAYS been known that girls mature FASTER than boys) and then are LABELED basically as HORRIBLE MONSTERS, for the REST of their lives, their FAMILIES suffer, for the rest of their lives, their wives, their children; it's an endless "domino effect" of torture and cruelty. I've seen ONE web site which the administrator is calling my husband nasty names and saying "he's been released from custody, no doubt to find MORE victims..." and it "warns" people to "keep children in, after dark", from him. It's sickening. I personally know 3 OTHER young men in the SAME situation. As a matter of FACT, ONE of those men is ENGAGED to the girl, and has a 3 yr. old DAUGHTER WITH HER!!! Yes, I agree COMPLETELY, that REAL sex criminals (both men AND women) whom have FORCED a person (man, woman OR child) into engaging in any sort of sexual activities should, most DEFFINITLY be in the category of "sex offender". The MOST disgusting thing (get THIS)-- remember, I said that this girl (by the way, she was 14 at the time) ADMITTED she had lied about her age, but WILLINGLY slept with him?-- my 2 little boys, at ages 7 and 10 (before my husband and I become romantically involved) were actually MOLESTED, by my EX-HUSBAND (not their father, thank GOD. . .) and EVEN though they BOTH told the SAME stories to social services, the counselors, the police and DOCTERS, at SEPARATE occasions, the judge through the case OUT of court, because (as HE said) there was "not enough EVIDENCE"----and he is a FREE man, with NO restrictions on where he may live, or BE, yet my HUSBAND is suffering, for a stupid sexual RELATIONSHIP he had, with a GIRL, whom WILLINGLY "laid down" for him, because of a crush she had on him, while HE, TOO, was at a VERY young age? This is the way things are, ALL across the country, {sickly} when it comes to the "sex offender" laws. This is very comparable to someone at the age of 10 stealing a pack of chewing gum, and being treated as though they robbed a bank, as an ADULT (same principle). It's people like "somedudeinfl" (and OTHERS whom think the SAME way) that make victims of the state, and CIRCUMSTANCE, such as my husband out to be "perverted monsters" whom don't belong in society-- tell me something?. . . suppose you, or a member of your OWN family was 18 or 19 years old and became involved (romantically) with a person whom LOOKED as though they were (at LEAST) 21 or 22 years old-- never went to school, had an i.d. which stated they were over 18 and you later discovered the TRUTH about her-- suppose her family LIKED you, and had NO problem with you being with her, because they felt you were good for her, and the STATE sent you, or your loved one to PRISON, labeling you and making you out to be some SICKO and not giving ALL of the FACTS to the public, but INSTEAD, only PART of the truth; JUST enough "truth" to give people the opinion that you're a PERVERT, and then 10 or 15 years down the ROAD, your WIFE and CHILDREN are TORMENTED, becuause of it?-- Tell me. . . how would YOU feel, knowing that you (or your loved one) is NOT a sick pervert, into harming little children, but only got involved with the wrong girl, whom is free to live her life, while YOU (or your loved one) and your FAMILY live in constant fear, ridicule and JUDGMENT by people who DON'T know all the facts? How would that make you feel? The people whom have VOTED for and PASSED these laws, that cover EVERYONE (instead of JUST the REAL sex criminals who enjoy forcing weaker people to become engaged in UNWANTED sexual activities, as it SHOULD be) are the BIGGEST perverts and SICKOS, of them ALL!!!-- These laws not differenciating between REAL "psychologically" unstable people and (pardon the expression) HORNY teenagers, having MUTUALLY AGREED UPON, BY THEIR PARTNER, sexual RELATIONSHIPS are COMPLETELY unconstitutional, comunistic in nature, SICK and TWISTED and SOMETHING has GOT to be DONE about it. . .

[lightlover]

First off, if you want to remain his friend, I say go for it, but to legally bind yourself to a convicted felon is idiotic...and irresponsible of you as a mother. You should give yourself and your child a fighting chance in life and you wont be able to do that with a convicted sex offender...sweetie this guy has gotten his life (nuts) in a vise..he will romance anyone he can just to have an Ali in his new (convicted) life. Are you prepared to support all of you when he cant get hired because of his status? Are you prepared to move everytime your neighbor makes a stink about you living by them? How about your child, with the new laws, are you prepared to go to school without your husband because he needs special clearance before he can set foot on school grounds? Look life is tough enough, why would you willingly invite such grief for your self and child? Your young, and the fact you mention you have no husband, alone and with a small child, tells me you might not have made the best decisions for yourself previously, its not an insult, just an observation...say thanks but no thanks...your too young to be a martyr..

"SO HUNTER"?!-- What kind of sick, SADISTIC name, is THAT?!-- To CONCERNED FIANCE-- don't pay any attention to this YUTZ-- he/she is just yet ANOTHER one of those TOTALLY IGNORANT people, who likes to ASSUME, just because a bunch of "beaurocrats" CLAIM something is "so". Read my OTHER post, responding to "somedudeinfl"-- hun, you have to FIGHT-- talk to lawyers, congressional official, news stations-- GET IT OUT IN THE OPEN; this is what I'm doing, and I FIRMLY believe that the people who are NOT "sicko sex criminals" WILL eventually be cleared of this horrible lable and FINALLY be able to live in a "free America" again, as it's SUPPOSED to be, as LONG as we, the "free Americans" (non felons/registered voters) stick TOGETHER, to get the laws CHANGED. CONCERNED FIANCE, if you love this man--- DON'T GIVE UP THE FIGHT; understand and ACCEPT that it will INDEED be a long, hard battle, and their will be MANY SACRIFICES (believe me, I speak from EXPERIENCE) but if you TRULY, in your HEART of HEARTS, love him enough to stick WITH him, through it ALL (remember, for better AND for WORSE) then by ALL means, MARRY him, and SHOW him that there is at least ONE person (you) who is there to support him, and not treat him as a horrible MONSTER-- believe me, he NEEDS that-- he NEEDS to know that you support him and are not ashamed of him, becuause of what his ex and her family has done, and what ignorant, judgmental JERKS such as this "SO Hunter" (and WAY too many OTHERS) ARE doing, because of the fact that they have nothing BETTER to do, with their time and LIVES but distroy OTHER people's, with their prejudice, premeditated conclusions based on HALF-TRUTHS that the States of this country have put together, in order to make as much money as POSSIBLE, off of the TRUE "victims" of slimy so CALLED "liberal" democratic political MONEY GRUBBERS!!---Girl, we have to stick TOGETHER-- DON'T give up on your man, if you TRULY love him; (you MAY be all he has, LEFT!!)

[lightlover]

Give me a break Shai.l...Peeing behind a dumpster? Perhaps at a elementary school while kids on recess maybe.....Is that the line your "third" husband gave you?

somedudeinFl-- you really know NOTHING about the laws, do you?!-- YES, if a law official caught you "peeing behind a dumpster", and you are over the age of 18, you WOULD, in fact be arrested and CONVICTED as a "sex offender"-- the REASON for this law (as LUDICROUS as it may SEEM-- because MOST of the sex offender laws are) is becuause "just in case" there were a minor child in the area (even if you don't KNOW he/she is there) the law considers this act to be "exposing sexual organs to a minor child", which IS, in fact a "sex offence". Do you realize that there is in FACT a HUGE difference, between a sex "offender" and a sexual "PREDATOR"?-- the DIFFERENCE is that a "PREDATOR" is a person who repeats sexual offences, such as RAPE, child molestation, child pornography, etc. A sex "OFFENDER", however, is ANYONE whom commits even just ONE act, that according to STATE laws SAYS is a "sexual offence". Even though I PERSONALLY find THESE 2 things to be COMPLETELY disgusting (not to MENTION, SINFUL)-- do you know, that in SOME states, if even a HETEROSEXUAL ADULT COUPLE choose to engage in "anal sex" (aka: SODOMY), if the law found this out, BOTH parties could be arrested and charged as sexual offenders, and ALSO, in some states, an ADULT HOMOSEXUAL couple can (and HAVE been) arrested and charged as "sexual offenders", JUSTfor being GAY?! A few years ago, (about 3 or 4), it was ALL over the media, that an ADULT lesbian couple, Virginia WERE arrested and CHARGED as "sex offenders", because the STATE LAWS say that homosexuality is ILLEGAL. somedudeinFL, I'd HIGHLY recommend that you do MUCH more research, on this EXTREMELY sensitive subject and gather MANY more FACTS, before RUNNING your MOUTH and JUDGING people, any further. Mark my WORDS-- eventually, you will come face to face with a situation where YOU will be judged for something, in the EXACT same way, and YOU aren't going to like it, very much-- as I'm sure you've already gathered, I'm a Christian women, and the Bible (NIV), Matthew 7:1-5 says: "{Judging Others}
1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." (Take the words of your Creator to HEART. . . )

[lightlover]

I succeeded in my life convicted S.O and all as you put it.I own my own business .Just think if i had listened to all those people who doomed me before i had a chance to succeed. Success is the best life you can live!I have never experienced any retaliation in my neighborhood or place of business.Success is the best life you can live! I own my own home , own business and support my family :)

Any fool can make a rule, and any fool will mind it.
Henry David Thoreau

Men are born to succeed, not fail.
Henry David Thoreau

All I can say, "Payback2", is GOD BLESS you, and your family-- I have MUCH respect and admiration for you!! :D

[lightlover]

No matter what the charge or circumstances?

Purplewolf50-- so, you believe (people like MY husband, as I've described in the other post) that ANY young person (i.e. 18 or 19 yrs. old, whom becomes sexually involved with someone (and that someone WILLFULLY engages in the sexual activity MORE times, than once) like these 11 and 12 year old HUZZIES we see on T.V. Talk shows, that are ADMITTING <and BRAGGING> that they have sex with MULTIPLE PARTNERS, should be "shot"?-- for WHAT?-- for falling for a little tramp's "scam"?-- YOU are a PRIME example of one of the TRUE "sicko freaks", just for SAYING something like this!!!-- what needs to HAPPEN, is one of these young "offenders" sitting in jail, (barely 18 yrs old) for having sex with his 15 1/2 year old girlfriend (whom wanted it JUST as BAD) needs to be RELEASED, so YOU can take his PLACE, because YOU are the one who is a TRUE "threat to society"--- people like you make me UTTERLY SICK!! :mad:

[lightlover]

Welll, If it was me, I would presume the worst about this guy. You never can tell by looking and can be blinded by your affections for him. There is a couple that live in the small town near me who took in children from the state for years. I thought they were the salt of the earth till the State Police called and asked if I had seen the guy. Seems he had been molesting his minor daughter for years and finally impregnated her. He went to prison for a long time, but the morons at the parole board let him loose after just a few years. His wife, who either is the dumbest woman in recorded history, or perhaps knew about him and for some unfathomable reason chose to remain silent has took him right back into the same house. I guess what I am trying to say is be very careful! Sexual preditors can look and act normal and fool about any one.

okie-- sexual "offenders" as i said before, is ANYONE whom commits ANY sort of act, even just ONCE, that the State considers "sex offence", (like my husband at 19 having sex with his 14 yr old girlfriend, whom had a fake i.d. saying she was OVER 18) whereas a "preditor" is someone who REPEATS sexual offences, such as a rapist, child molester, child pornographer, etc. (just thought I'd "clear that up", for you.) Also, in MY state, Florida (as well as some OTHERS) a "PREDITOR" has MANY restrictions on where he/she can live, work, socialize, congregate, etc., but an "OFFENDER" has NO restrictions, due to the fact that there are SO many meanings of "sexual offence", and because it's a "one time" offence (like my husband's situation).

[retcop]

" you really know NOTHING about the laws, do you?!-- YES, if a law official caught you "peeing behind a dumpster", and you are over the age of 18, you WOULD, in fact be arrested and CONVICTED as a "sex offender"-- the REASON for this law (as LUDICROUS as it may SEEM-- because MOST of the sex offender laws are) is becuause "just in case" there were a minor child in the area (even if you don't KNOW he/she is there) the law considers this act to be "exposing sexual organs to a minor child", which IS, in fact a "sex offence". :confused:

As you quote laws you should mention what stste and the local jurisdiction you are speaking about. Many states consider "peeing behind a dumpster" as urinating in public this is not a sex offence. Indecent exposure is a sex offense but there needs to be a victim. juvenile or an adult, present not just in case and usually the law contains the wording "for sexual gratification or to alarm". :eek:

All states have an age of consent for sexual activity. Children below this age can not give their consent for sexual activity. All adullts should know this and are held responsible if they violate this line. It is ignorant to blame 12 and 13 year olds for this type of offense. Many states have as a defense to this action the right to raise mistaken idenity as a defense. In my opinion an adult male who can not tell the difference between a 14 and 18 year old is a fool.

By the way lightlover quote some state laws still being enforced that say a married couple can not do what thet want sexually. You may want to go to Weststar and research US Supreme Court decisions before you answer..

[Efren]

Those of you who think that ALL Sex offenders should be jailed for life or killed, are uneducated stupid people. If a young man, lets say 18-19 years of age, senior in H.S Dates lets say a Freshman 14 year old and she performs any act, it could be kissing, or oral sex, the young man will have his life ruined if the girl decides to tell because he does not call her back. in the state of IL at least, he would have to register for the rest of his natural life as a "Sexual Predator" how is this fair if any pshycologist will tell you that the brain is not fully developed until mid 20's? when this young man decides to have a family he will probably not be able to attend some of his kids school activities, or even go to visit his little brother or sister perform in the school play in jr high or grade school. just wait it will probably happen to someone you care about maybe your son, even daughter or your grandchild then it will be to late and you already voted to have ALL sex offenders vanished from the face of the world. i know you will say "no noone in my family is sick like that" but the truth is that a lot of sex offenders are your regular people that are walking around they just have not been caught yet.
for those of you who are wondering, yes i am a convicted sex offender. i was 19 years of age, the girl lied about her age..we had sex and she i guess thought she was pregnant and to not get in too much trouble lied and said that i raped her. i was not charged with forcing her, it was the age thing. now i will be a "sexual predator" until i die even though i dont even daydream of touching a female under 18 years of age.

[>>Flyboy<<]

Those of you who think that ALL Sex offenders should be jailed for life or killed, are uneducated stupid people.A 40 year old man and an 8 year old boy - you tell me?!?!?!

Sorry for your misfortune at 19 - It seems you really knew this girl well before you had sex with her...:rolleyes:

[Efren]

A 40 year old man and an 8 year old boy - you tell me?!?!?!

Sorry for your misfortune at 19 - It seems you really knew this girl well before you had sex with her...:rolleyes:

OK I said "Those of you who think that "ALL Sex offenders should be jailed for life or killed, are uneducated stupid people" for a reason, I did not say "those of you who think that sex offenders should be jailed for life or killed" "ALL" being key word. I am sorry but you seem like one of the uneducated ignorant people. I agree that a 40 yr old man molesting an 8 yr old is extremely sick I have 4 nephews ages 14 days, 4 yrs old, 3 yrs old, and 12 yrs old and if I knew of anyone molesting them or another young prepubescent child I would seriously injure them. but I am talking about people who believe that ALL sex offenders belong in the same place. You read things and blow them out of proportion.

[JOKER]

If you are a sex offender for peeing behind a dumpster, just imagine what kind of a MONSTER you are if you take a REAL DUMP (You're doing a good job, Brownie") behind a dumpster. :eek:


And while the cops are arresting the peeing perpeetraitor :D , who's going after the REAL CROOKS, like ummmm......

Murderers, Drug Dealers, Kiddie GANGS, Rapists, Crooked Oil Executives, swindling Insurance Company Salespeeps, Grandma lifesavings stealers ...

HUH ???? :confused:

[>>Flyboy<<]

OK I said "Those of you who think that "ALL Sex offenders should be jailed for life or killed, are uneducated stupid people" for a reason, I did not say "those of you who think that sex offenders should be jailed for life or killed" "ALL" being key word. I am sorry but you seem like one of the uneducated ignorant people.
I'm not the one who got blamed for a rape ASSHOLE! It sucks to be you!

I agree that a 40 yr old man molesting an 8 yr old is extremely sick I have 4 nephews ages 14 days, 4 yrs old, 3 yrs old, and 12 yrs old and if I knew of anyone molesting them or another young prepubescent child I would seriously injure them. but I am talking about people who believe that ALL sex offenders belong in the same place. You read things and blow them out of proportion.No, you blew things out of proportion by immediately thinking that you were the one victimized. Even at 19 I was careful who I slept with and I made sure I knew them well and avoided jail bait because of what you described, so you tell me who's stupid??? Now you're paying for your stupidity for the rest of your life!!! I don't label you like the 40 year old pedophile I gave an example of, but face it, you banged an underage chick and now you're paying for it!!!

[Efren]

I'm not the one who got blamed for a rape ASSHOLE! It sucks to be you!
No, you blew things out of proportion by immediately thinking that you were the one victimized. Even at 19 I was careful who I slept with and I made sure I knew them well and avoided jail bait because of what you described, so you tell me who's stupid??? Now you're paying for your stupidity for the rest of your life!!! I don't label you like the 40 year old pedophile I gave an example of, but face it, you banged an underage chick and now you're paying for it!!!

I never thought i was the "victim" you dont know the whole story so shut up. thats why you seriously shouldnt Judge EVEYR Sex offender. I wont threaten you and say ill do anytrhing, but careful who you call an asshole and who you judge cause someone will kick your ass you come off ass an arrogant asshole but ill end this conversation. have a nice life being on this forum 24/7 get a life

[>>Flyboy<<]

I never thought i was the "victim" you dont know the whole story so shut up. thats why you seriously shouldnt Judge EVEYR Sex offender. I wont threaten you and say ill do anytrhing, but careful who you call an asshole and who you judge cause someone will kick your ass you come off ass an arrogant asshole but ill end this conversation. have a nice life being on this forum 24/7 get a lifeAnd I'll put it to you lightly dickhead - FUCK YOU! You're the dumbshit that fucked up and spread your pathetic ignorance on this board and for the most part you're probably a bull shitter too. Yes I am arrogant and don't even begin to threaten me dipshit. By the way I have a great life AND I DON'T HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD YOU LOOSER ASSHOLE!!!!

[Efren]

And I'll put it to you lightly dickhead - FUCK YOU! You're the dumbshit that fucked up and spread your pathetic ignorance on this board and for the most part you're probablying a bull shitter too. Yes I am arrogant and don't even begin to threaten me dipshit. By the way I have a great life AND I DON'T HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD YOU LOOSER ASSHOLE!!!!
ehhh sooner or later you will find yourself on the bad side of the law, (watch out for a guy named bubba he liked arrogant "assholes" like yourself) i never threatened you, im not a cyber fighter like some lame people around here not saying any names :rolleyes: so yeah get a life and stop harassing people for expressing their thougths just because i have a criminal record does not make me less then you, or does it take any right from me. you say you live a good life? GOOD FOR YOU!! cookie? :D so do i, i have two college Degrees my self and my own Record label but im not going to brag Mr. GOODLIFE

[>>Flyboy<<]

ehhh sooner or later you will find yourself on the bad side of the law, (watch out for a guy named bubba he liked arrogant "assholes" like yourself) Yea you should know dumbshit, I bet you're now shitting watermelons


i never threatened you, im not a cyber fighter like some lame people around here not saying any names :rolleyes: Yea, cause you could barely spell, let alone produce coherent posts



so yeah get a life and stop harassing people for expressing their thougths just because i have a criminal record does not make me less then you, or does it take any right from me. But the way you brought it about shows you're an ignorant asshole!

you say you live a good life? GOOD FOR YOU!! cookie? :D so do i, i have two college Degrees my self and my own Record label but im not going to brag Mr. GOODLIFEAnd you're the perfect example to show the world that a college degree doesn't increase IQ. Is one of those degrees in sex education???:D

[Efren]

Yea you should know dumbshit, I bet you're now shitting watermelon

Yea, cause you could barely spell, let alone produce coherent posts


But the way you brought it about shows you're an ignorant asshole!
And you're the perfect example to show the world that a college degree doesn't increase IQ. Is one of those degrees in sex education???:D

Nope i was never sent to prison, and about shitting wattermelons,(what a SICKO) i wouldnt know about. i bet you do, or you wouldnt be bringing it up. you probably try it for fun only you know what else you use :eek: your sick man you need help. ohhh and "yea" is spelled Y-E-A-H.....

lets not talk about IQ's i wouldnt be surprised if you wear a Helmet talking about sex classes (only people talking about sex is people not getting any) grow up lol. you know what though seriously you are funny, sitting at home arguing with me, when according to you; you live a "good life". and that im a loser. who is the loser now? you seem to be online alll day, me i check up on this thread to keep screwing with you, making you think you actually making me mad and screwing with me. im just taking your time away having a little fun relaxing. watching a silly fool like yourself do what you do best,...being a dumb ass fool. dont you have another jackass clip to go do?

[>>Flyboy<<]

Nope i was never sent to prison, and about shitting wattermelons,(what a SICKO) i wouldnt know about. i bet you do, or you wouldnt be bringing it up. you probably try it for fun only you know what else you use :eek: your sick man you need help. ohhh and "yea" is spelled Y-E-A-H.....Yeah - i'm a sicko, but you're still the one with a record dickhead!!!! I bet you had at least one night in jail, was Bubba nice to you since you brought him up?!?!?!?

lets not talk about IQ's i wouldnt be surprised if you wear a Helmet talking about sex classes (only people talking about sex is people not getting any) grow up lol. Yeah - let's not talk about IQs - 2 degrees with a criminal record! Did you do a home study course while Buba was your tudor!!!you know what though seriously you are funny, sitting at home arguing with me, when according to you; you live a "good life". and that im a loser. who is the loser now? You are!! You're still here trying to justify you're pathetic convict watermelon ass! you seem to be online alll day, me i check up on this thread to keep screwing with you, making you think you actually making me mad and screwing with me.believe what you want dickhead, you keep coming back for more, maybe you just want someone else to show you're a lowlife piece of shit im just taking your time away having a little fun relaxing. watching a silly fool like yourself do what you do best,...being a dumb ass fool. dont you have another jackass clip to go do?Good have fun dickhead, at the end of the day I could attend a little league game, can you??? But listen and watch carefully, maybe you'll get another degree
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~pdang/AA/Retard.jpg

Maybe you could use this on your label!!

[Efren]

"Fagboy" you are the one coming back for more, you dont bother me lol. you are a loser. get a life you dipshit, dont you have a boyfriend that you have to go kiss his ass?...leave people alone who just want to share their opinion. you seriously will find someone out in hippieville, Co. to beat your ass you deserve it lol i hope bubba will take it easy on you. I AM OFFICIALLY DONE WITH THIS SITE. i am not scared of fagboy i am just tired of that loser ass that sits at his computer looking for people to troll on he needs to grow up and stop taking it up the ASS peace out!!

[>>Flyboy<<]

" dont you have a boyfriend that you have to go kiss his ass?...You're then one that should know about boyfriends, being incarcerated like the looser piece of shit you are!!!


leave people alone who just want to share their opinion. you seriously will find someone out in hippieville, Co. to beat your ass you deserve it lol i hope bubba will take it easy on you.

When you share your opinion, people share theirs, and if you're an asshole some folks let it be known. You keep talking about bubba - you musta liked him after you rapped that underage girl

hippieville - this that where you got your 2 degrees?

I AM OFFICIALLY DONE WITH THIS SITE. i am not scared of fagboy i am just tired of that loser ass that sits at his computer looking for people to troll on he needs to grow up and stop taking it up the ASS peace out!!GREAT!! Go away asshole to your criminal record (which I believe was your fault to begin with) your fake degrees and imaginary record label - from the get go you shown your nothing but an imbecile who drooled on his keyboard and showed his stupidity to the world!!!

[ZMan!]

My comments refer to all sex laws, but Georgia in particular.

Any "registry" is just plain wrong. The Nazi's used them, and they banished millions of jewish people who did not deserve any of the pain, suffering and death they were forced to succumb to.

People who say "but it's for the children" is just trying to scare the hell out of the public, and guess what, it's working. Just look at all the hateful things MANY people who are uneducated are saying, like "LET'S HANG EM ALL", "THEY SHOULD ALL REPORT TO THEIR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CHECK IN". These people are very uneducated, hopefully they will read all these replies, and DO SOME RESEARCH before ranting off more hate-filled-talk.

I am all for punishing predators and pedophiles, but, while they are in jail or prison, they need to be getting professional help. People can change, you just have to give them the tools to help them change. If you just lock them up for years, and then let them out, they are just going to be worse than when they originally went in.

I've never been in prison, but I know jail is very bad. You have a lot of cops with GOD complexes, who think EVERYONE in jail are scum, when they are the ones who need help. I've seen a cop break a guys arm in jail, just because he asked for some coffee, the cop told him "Shut the **** up you queer!", and the guy started other bad comments back to the cop, who then thru him on the ground and broke his arm. This cop should be locked up for a long time, until he gets his anger issues worked out, or loose his job.

I am a SO myself, and I'm not trying to down play what I did. I know it was wrong, but I don't think I deserve all this, who was simply getting out of my shower one morning, just moved into a new apartment, and thought there was woods in the back. I had plans for the day to go to the lake, so I wanted to see what the weather was like, so while I was still nude, I walked back to the back sliding glass door, opened it slightly, and pulled the curtains back. An 11 year old was back there, and she saw me. I was not fondling myself or anything. She ran and told he mother, and now, since 1998, I've been fighting this SO registry and laws since, and also labeled a "CHILD MOLESTOR" just because the girl was 11 years old and someone I didn't know. Also labeled a "VIOLENT" person because she was so young, and someone I did not know.

I've recently took a sex evaluation, and the therapist said I passed it with flying colors, meaning I'm normal and do NOT have any sexual desires for kids. But, because my original victim was 11 years old, I'm in the medium or high risk. Why? If I came back to the therapist in 50 years, it would be the same. Why am I not judged on how I am today, not something I did back in 1988? How's this right? If I passed it with "flying colors", then I'm LOW RISK!!!!! I've never been convicted of another sex crime, and have no intention of being, but all these stipulations are making it hard to not FAIL!!!! I have NEVER reoffended, and do NOT have any desire to. But, I'm labeled as a CHILD MOLESTOR, and people always think I'm some crazy person hiding in the bushes, waiting on some kid to come by so I can hurt and/or kill them, which is not true. Many people are on the registry for concensual sex, flashing their boobs in public, etc. Plus everyone is not being re-evaluated, everyone is being lumped in to the worse case, which is not right. Sex offenders need to be fairly re-evaluated, not like I was above.

I was also molested/raped by my brother when I was young, which I did not even remember until I went to therapy. And when I finally remembered it, I was VERY ANGRY, and if my brother was not in the military at the time, and at home, I'd probably purchased a gun, stuck it in his mouth, and pulled the trigger. But, I know that would've got me into a lot of trouble, upset my parents a lot, even though I know they were also upset this happenned. But, I am glad I did not do that, and I forgave my brother, whom I loved very much, and still do. But, he died in the marienes while traveling at a high rate of speed on a motorcycle, while drunk. He slammed into a mediam and it decapitated him.. When I found that out, it tore me apart, and I was really depressed, and I did not want to kill myself, but a lot of my actions seemed like I was trying to. I love my brother very much, and will miss him forever, even though I'm still angry it happenned. I think if this would've never happenned, I would not be in the sitation I'm in now.

So most SO's, IMO, have probably been molested themselves when they were young, and need help, professional help. Not locked up for the rest of their lives. If you are a TRUE Christian, then you know, you must learn to love your enemy and forgive, which I've done, so you must do the same. I'm not saying it's right, but we MUST learn to love and learn from our mistakes, not just lock them up and throw away the key. That makes things worse. We have kids killing kids, and people killing people for stupid stuff, like a pair of shoes or 2 dollars. Come on!! WE MUST CHANGE!!

I've been single my whole life, due to all this. I've not trusted anyone, especially police, government people, and many lawyers and therapists. They all seem like they are out to do me in, or get all the hard earned money I'm making.

Some issues with these laws are (in my opinion):

a) 1000 feet buffer zones, these do nothing but give the public a false sense of security. If someone wanted to hurt a kid, they just hop in the car and drive. And also makes it very hard for someone to find a place to stay, I know, been there, done that.

b) As far as churches, pools and places where kids congregate, same as above. False sense of security. Why can't I go to church and afterwards, hang around talking to people? Also, if someone had a business, then later a church was put up next door, they can now go to church, but cannot run their own business. Also, I have been all over the local area looking for hotels/motels to stay, and almost 100% of them have a pool or church near by.

c) They are also claiming it's to protect the kids, but what about the familes and kids of SO's? They do NOT care about them, and now, instead of the SO being punished, their whole family is. Their kids cannot be around their mother or father because they are a SO.

d) These buffer zones, when enacted in ALL states, will basically BANISH SO's. Where are they going to live? Some people have said some island somewhere, or who cares.... EVERY human being has rights, even murderers, jews, christians, SO's, everyone!!!

e) SO's are scape goats for politicians so they look like they are TUFF on SO's to get votes. And if the public accepts this, eventually they'll pass other laws to make your life hell as well.

f) I don't like doing this, but, if you read Hitler's "Mein Kampf" he made the following statement. Which if you think about it, this is what politicians, John Walsh, and many other folks are doing now. Pretty soon, more crazy stuff will be passed, and eventually this will be a Nazi country.

"The state must declare the child to be the most
precious treasure of the people. As long as the
government is perceived as working for the benefit
of the children, the people will happily endure
almost any curtailment of liberty and almost any
deprivation. -Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler

g) By putting the offenders address on the registries, this only helps vigilante's hunt us down to kill us. I am constantly nervous when my phone rings, someone knocks on my door, I go outside, I'm always thinking any minute now someone is going to kill me or hurt me. I know many people would probably love that, but how'd you like to live like this? If someone gets near me to hurt me, believe me, I'm not going to go without YOU getting HURT!! Read the news, many SO's have already been killed by vigilante's. I even read recently where a JUDGE killed someone, just over something his wife said. His wife said their 2 year old girl said the next door neighbor touched her incorrectly. Now, that may've been true, but I find it hard to believe a 2 year old would say something like that. So, the JUDGE (father) took it upon himself to go next door, climb into the guys window while he was asleep, and stabbed him MANY times. Now you understand why I am a nervous wreck, and constantly worried......

h) The law says they would categorize people on the registry into low, medium and high risk. THEY HAVE NOT DONE THIS! They've put EVERYONE into the HIGH risk area, and the PUBLIC has the impression we are all hiding behind the bushes, waiting for your kid to come by, so we can hurt and kill them. This is untrue!! And is only the politicians scaring you, so you go along with their laws. Wise up folks and read the laws, then, with a truely open mind, tell me you think these laws are fair.

i) The world today is cruel, so if you have kids, do your job and monitor them. If I see your kid out on the street, unattended, I'm going to call 911, tell them I'm a SO, and some jerks kids are out roaming the street, so come do your job and get the kid off the street. I'll only be protecting myself, and I expect you to protect your kids. Bush says the American public CANNOT PROTECT THEMSELVES. Are you truely going to believe this? Protect your kids, watch what they are doing on the Internet, and who they are talking to, it's your job and right to know what they are doing.

Peace and God Bless you ALL!!!!!

[Mra]

yea....well have you seen GIRLS NOWADAYS??? How would you expect ppl to know their ages when they are already dressing all slutty and most all adult-ish looking??? Explain that to me...nowadays its easy to get a false ID....and what not.... Think about it before you start insulting ppl....just because you "get to know" the person doesnt mean they are ALWAYS telling the truth...I can lie and I can say Im 16 yrs old....if you knew how old I really am...you wouldnt believe it... theres girls that are at least 15yrs old that look 18yrs old....... now tell me.....you card them???....if you do have a cookie and pat urself.... cuz no one gives a fuck ...it matters what other ppl go thru....not you...you have to get into others ppl shoes and mind before u start saying shit....

[>>Flyboy<<]

yea....well have you seen GIRLS NOWADAYS??? How would you expect ppl to know their ages when they are already dressing all slutty and most all adult-ish looking??? Explain that to me...nowadays its easy to get a false ID....and what not...and you're speaking about situations that are very hypothetical - do you even know what that means???

Think about it before you start insulting ppl....just because you "get to know" the person doesnt mean they are ALWAYS telling the truth...I can lie and I can say Im 16 yrs old....if you knew how old I really am...you wouldnt believe it... theres girls that are at least 15yrs old that look 18yrs old....... now tell me.....you card them???....if you do have a cookie and pat urself.... cuz no one gives a fuck ...it matters what other ppl go thru....not you...you have to get into others ppl shoes and mind before u start saying shit....Your ranting and stupid hypothetical situations borders between ghetto trash and retardation, I'm telling you straight up you're a fucking idiot. I suggest another swig of 8 ball or maybe some more prozac...

[Efren]

Do you really think that you are some kind of expert? your comments are idiotic, and you are full of shit! you think that the way you think is the way everything should be, and that the World revolves around you, <<news flash for flyboy>> its a big world!! your world is very small i mean with it being only your mother, the few friends that you have from the star trek club, and yourself.
Flyboy, were you picked on growing up in school? It sure seems like you are a weenie of a man, got his ass kicked and got picked on growing up. You can't get a date so, you come online to talk shit to people what a fucking retard!!. you know, you come on acting smart and educated, when in reality you are 30 years old living with your mom, and still gets his clothes picked and bought by mommy. GROW UP you are 30 YEARS OLD or at least get some help, there are special places for people with IQ's 30 and below like you. I know you are going to respond to this post and show how stupid you are again to the world with some more name calling go ahead....

[Mra]

and you're speaking about situations that are very hypothetical - do you even know what that means???
Your ranting and stupid hypothetical situations borders between ghetto trash and retardation, I'm telling you straight up you're a fucking idiot. I suggest another swig of 8 ball or maybe some more prozac...



right....have u ever thought about...OPENING UP UR MIND......Go out and see for ur fucking self....Im taking both sides and putting myself in both sides....ITS CALLED THINKING AND BEING LOGICAL.....You must be some sort of an idiot....Trust me you fuck tard...I might talk ghetto trash mother fucker b/c I seen shit of that happen...See how many girls u have prolly knocked out that were underage......its the year 2006 fuck tard....Usually girls provoke shit...and they asked for it..then they go crying because they were lil bitches asking for it....IF you ask for it YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE , u play with fire and u get burned......and for pedefiles and shit...that actually do stupid shit....that do mean to...deserve to get their dicks shoved up their ass and burnt....and I believe in many things that you fuck tard wont get it....Im an evil bitch.. psycho maybe... but to the point that I see both sides of the situations.....

[>>Flyboy<<]

right....have u ever thought about...OPENING UP UR MIND......[ I have and it seems yours is the size of a small thimble

Go out and see for ur fucking self....Im taking both sides and putting myself in both sides....ITS CALLED THINKING AND BEING LOGICAL..... Yep and right now I'm seeing a crack head. You must be some sort of an idiot....Trust me you fuck tard...I might talk ghetto trash mother fucker b/c I seen shit of that happen... yea because you are ghetto trash and have mentality of an empty colt 45 bottle

See how many girls u have prolly knocked out that were underage......its the year 2006 fuck tard.... I own a calendar and know how to read it, do you dumbass???

Usually girls provoke shit...and they asked for it..then they go crying because they were lil bitches asking for it.... Right now you just showed you're on the lower end of the gene pool, probably a combination of crack parents who were hit in the head with a 2X4

IF you ask for it YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE , u play with fire and u get burned......and for pedefiles and shit...that actually do stupid shit....that do mean to...deserve to get their dicks shoved up their ass and burnt....and I believe in many things that you fuck tard wont get it....Im an evil bitch.. psycho maybe... but to the point that I see both sides of the situations.....Right now you made some sense , and yes you are an evil bitch (are you my ex wife?) Anyway with a small amount of agreement with your imbecilic gibbering, it seems you do have a small amount of brain matter, after all you somewhat know how to use a computer. I suggest you learn how to express yourself somewhere between crack-whore and imbecile, you might get your point across more clearly...

[>>Flyboy<<]

Do you really think that you are some kind of expert? your comments are idiotic, and you are full of shit! you think that the way you think is the way everything should be, and that the World revolves around you, <<news flash for flyboy>> its a big world!! your world is very small i mean with it being only your mother, the few friends that you have from the star trek club, and yourself. I thought you were going away dickhead, whats the matter, the record business slow??


Flyboy, were you picked on growing up in school? It sure seems like you are a weenie of a man, got his ass kicked and got picked on growing up. far from it you imbecile

You can't get a date so, you come online to talk shit to people what a fucking retard!!. you know, you come on acting smart and educated, when in reality you are 30 years old living with your mom, and still gets his clothes picked and bought by mommy. you know nothing about me and you don't need to know except I shit your brain capacity 2x a day...

GROW UP you are 30 YEARS OLD or at least get some help, I'm older

there are special places for people with IQ's 30 and below like you. Add a couple of zeros to that

I know you are going to respond to this post and show how stupid you are again to the world with some more name calling go ahead....No I'll just draw you a picture dickhead, you'll understand it better
http://www.misplaced.net/stfu/assclown_award.jpg

[Efren]

I thought you were going away dickhead, whats the matter, the record business slow??
far from it you imbecile
you know nothing about me and you don't need to know except I shit your brain capacity 2x a day...
I'm older
Add a couple of zeros to that
No I'll just draw you a picture dickhead, you'll understand it better
http://www.misplaced.net/stfu/assclown_award.jpg

ok you just finished showing how stupid and retarded you really are http://www.misplaced.net/stfu/leavetheinternet.jpg

[>>Flyboy<<]

ok you just finished showing how stupid and retarded you really are http://www.misplaced.net/stfu/leavetheinternet.jpg
Hey Mr. child molester, guess what

http://yonlu.netfirms.com/you_win_the_prize.jpg
BUT REMEMBER, YOU CAN'T GO NEAR THIS KID!!!

[Efren]

http://yonlu.netfirms.com/you_win_the_prize.jpg
Aww look its a picture of that time when you got that trophy!!! Congratulations flyboy...did mommy take you for icecream??

[>>Flyboy<<]

Aww look its a picture of that time when you got that trophy!!! Congratulations flyboy...did mommy take you for icecream??No, you took the picture of your future boyfriend (the child receiving the prize!!)

[>>Flyboy<<]

for those of you who are wondering, yes i am a convicted sex offender.Call a turd a turd....You're not a violent sexual predator and maybe should even be labeled one, but in reality I think you're just a stupid ass!

[Efren]

Awww I see you are desperately trying to get me mad, FAGBOY you brought this on yourself with your stupidity, posting the most moronic posts ever. You are talking shit about arguing online and, "drawing pictures" when you are the one calling people names, then you cant take the consequences. You start showing the real you (The moron in flyboy) What do you want the entire population to be, and think like your stupid ass? open your mind you stupid ass, oh you are just an annoying retard I'm sorry you cant help it.

You stated "IM OLDER" good for you SHOW IT at least you don't deny that you live with mommy and that she picks out your clothes. You say to "add a couple of Zeros" to 30 (your IQ) YOU FUCKING WISH you are below average deal with it, like I said there are special places for people like you. Hey if you don't use the "F" word so much they might give you a lollypop.

[>>Flyboy<<]

Awww I see you are desperately trying to get me mad, I don't have to get you mad, you're an idiot to start with so getting you mad would just be a waste of time

You are talking shit about arguing online and, "drawing pictures" when you are the one calling people names, then you cant take the consequences. Sure I could but the only consequences I see here is at the end of the day you're still a low life jerk off with a criminal record!

You start showing the real you (The moron in flyboy) What do you want the entire population to be, and think like your stupid ass? Well I don't want them to be like you, everyone would be on parole!


open your mind you stupid ass, oh you are just an annoying retard I'm sorry you cant help it. So why do you come back dipshit??? you actually sound mad now, or did you just shit your pants!! Your record label slow or maybe those 2 degrees are weighing you down!?!?!?

You stated "IM OLDER" good for you SHOW IT at least you don't deny that you live with mommy and that she picks out your clothes.
She also makes my breakfast....
You say to "add a couple of Zeros" to 30 (your IQ) YOU FUCKING WISH you're right, add about 6 more zeros!!

you are below average deal with it, like I said there are special places for people like you. MIT, Harvard, to name a few

Hey if you don't use the "F" word so much they might give you a lollypop.Great, I hope it's grape, but in your case you'd want a big rubber dildo up your ass!

[dallaskathleen]

good lord children. my food fight with nikki queen was far more entertaining and much less tense. puleeeze...fly boy sit back ,take a deep gasp of yer oxygen tank. have a grey goose cape cod,extra lime,splash of some shit nobody cares about. efren you got issues, we ain't gonna blame yo mamma just 'cause she don't know your name was 'posed to end with an "m". you have a hennessey and coke with an extra lime and some shit nobody gives a shit about. now, everybody better? BOTH OF YOU SHUT THE F UP. gosh i feel better

[>>Flyboy<<]

good lord children. my food fight with nikki queen was far more entertaining and much less tense. It was - I'll pay for more of that!! puleeeze...fly boy sit back ,take a deep gasp of yer oxygen tank. have a grey goose cape cod,extra lime,splash of some shit nobody cares about. I prefer a good dark beer, thank you! efren you got issues, we ain't gonna blame yo mamma just 'cause she don't know your name was 'posed to end with an "m". you have a hennessey and coke with an extra lime and some shit nobody gives a shit about.You left out the Prozac
now, everybody better?
I'm fine, but I think EfreN (with the wanna-be "m") still might be a bit upset, after all he's still potty training and Pampers are hard to find in his size! BOTH OF YOU SHUT THE F UP. gosh i feel betterYou should of used the full F word, you would of got a lolly-pop!

[dallaskathleen]

It was - I'll pay for more of that!! I prefer a good dark beer, thank you! You left out the Prozac

I'm fine, but I think EfreN (with the wanna-be "m") still might be a bit upset, after all he's still potty training and Pampers are hard to find in his size! You should of used the full F word, you would of got a lolly-pop!
fuck! i like candy.

[dallaskathleen]

fuck! i like candy.
may i interest you in a little smomething from the new belgium brewing co. or perhaps something a little stouter?

[>>Flyboy<<]

fuck! i like candy.
LOL!!:D

[>>Flyboy<<]

may i interest you in a little smomething from the new belgium brewing co. or perhaps something a little stouter?I'm there!!!!

[dude]

Usually girls provoke shit...and they asked for it..then they go crying because they were lil bitches asking for it.

I just wanted to drop in to say that you are fucking retarded.

[Efren]

efren you got issues, we ain't gonna blame yo mamma just 'cause she don't know your name was 'posed to end with an "m".
Umm no i am Mexican "Efren" is spelled Corectly, if you do not know, dont speak just keep your mouth shut please.

[Efren]

It was - I'll pay for more of that!! I prefer a good dark beer, thank you! You left out the Prozac

I'm fine, but I think EfreN (with the wanna-be "m") still might be a bit upset, after all he's still potty training and Pampers are hard to find in his size! You should of used the full F word, you would of got a lolly-pop!
Joe are you confused? you are Spanish and you dont know? you truely are an idiot

[Efren]

I don't have to get you mad, you're an idiot to start with so getting you mad would just be a waste of time
Sure I could but the only consequences I see here is at the end of the day you're still a low life jerk off with a criminal record!
Well I don't want them to be like you, everyone would be on parole!

So why do you come back dipshit??? you actually sound mad now, or did you just shit your pants!! Your record label slow or maybe those 2 degrees are weighing you down!?!?!?

She also makes my breakfast....
you're right, add about 6 more zeros!!
MIT, Harvard, to name a few
Great, I hope it's grape, but in your case you'd want a big rubber dildo up your ass!

Joe flyfuckboy what makes me an idiot? a bad choice i made over 5 years ago or the fact that i dont agree with your stupid ass? im not on parole jackass i never did a day in prison. that i sound mad no, hell no.. just your old ass might get mad enough and have a heart attack or something.
Record label business isnt slow, you should do some homework. you record some albums and get a percentage off every cd sold for well, for ever. what you jelous you never made it to college? what do you need to be able to work on some planes? some technical school? lol Harvard? you would be lucky if you were to make it in to State college. You migh want to look into clown school.

[>>Flyboy<<]

Joe are you confused? you are Spanish and you dont know? you truely are an idiotNo my friend, you're the idiot, you're so confused you don't get the joke!!!

Joe flyfuckboy what makes me an idiot? first you don't know how to combine you're post, second your demeanor which is somewhere between an empty colt 45 bottle and an empty bag of potato chips

a bad choice i made over 5 years ago or the fact that i dont agree with your stupid ass? the fact that the gene pool is in obvious bad shapeim not on parole jackass i never did a day in prison. Great, that's one less dick head to rehabilitate that i sound mad no, hell no.. just your old ass might get mad enough and have a heart attack or something.I'm not that old and my heart is quite healthy thank you, however if heart attacks happened in the brain, you'd need a jarvik 7 just to take a shit!


Record label business isnt slow, you should do some homework. you record some albums and get a percentage off every cd sold for well, for ever.Great, maybe you'll make enough money to get a 3rd degree!what you jelous you never made it to college?No not at all, I spent my time at the beach! what do you need to be able to work on some planes? some technical school? lol Harvard? You tell me genius you're the one with the 2 degrees!!

you would be lucky if you were to make it in to State college. Actually city college and some flying lessons worked for me! You migh want to look into clown school.I already did and when I saw you were the school's Dean I decided aviation couldn't be much worse.

PS - I see you're reading my past posts - I'm honored! If you want an autograph I'll send you one, but just remember this, I don't take to kindly to stalkers!!!:D

[Efren]

You talk your shit cause you don't know me, if you knew me you wouldn't open your mouth. you don't know jack shit about me. I don't respect clowns like you, who stereotype and talk shit, I used to kick their asses but you know its not worth it; since all of you are full of shit and all. You keep talking about colt 45, dildos, and lollipops, you imbecile are the one with a problem. I actually respected some of the opinions you made on some posts, but now,.. you are just a perverted old ass man. You have some gay tendencies from what i read and just in denial. your ex wife knew it and that's why she left your sorry ass. I feel for you.. FAG!!

[>>Flyboy<<]

You talk your shit cause you don't know me, if you knew me you wouldn't open your mouth. I would yawn but you're right if I did know you I wouldn't open my mouth, amoebic cells don't hear!

you don't know jack shit about me. I don't and I don't want to know, you're the one that came in my playground JACK!I don't respect clowns like you, who stereotype and talk shit,
I don't respect clowns either. Ronald McDonald and Bozo piss me off, but as far me stereotyping, I didn't have to do much, you ooze with ignorance!!


I used to kick their asses but you know its not worth it; since all of you are full of shit and all. Big man, i bet you kick a lot of underage girls asses too!

you keep talking about colt 45, dildos, and lollipops, Hey I didn't bring up the lolly pop, but colt 45 and dildos are something I know you could relate to!

you imbecile are the one with a problem.Am I? You keep coming back? Do you have an ever-ready up your ass!

I actually respected some of the opinions you made on some posts, but now,.. you are just a perverted old ass man. HEY I appreciate that, but I'm not that old! :D

You have some gay tendencies from what i read and just in denial. your ex wife knew it and that's why she left your sorry ass. I feel for you.. FAG!!If want to believe that - fine, its an easy cop out when you're in intellectual denial, something I think you faced in the 1st grade. But who's stereotyping now! So much intolerance! My current wife won't like you either!

Face it dumb shit, you're just a young punk full of himself. You fit the perfect role as a cake changer....Its amazing when testosterone and stupidity comes together!

[dallaskathleen]

Umm no i am Mexican "Efren" is spelled Corectly, if you do not know, dont speak just keep your mouth shut please.
however correctly is not, hmm....?

[Calamitysmaster]

Not to cause an uproar, but I thought I would just mention one thing on this topic.

(I am a Forensic Psyhcology student in my senior year and I have worked the past 4 years along side many offenders, SO included....and this is what concerns me):

There are a good handful of sex offenders who need to be put on death row and actually put down, others that need jail time and rehabilitation and another good portion that are wrongfully accussed. I work with the "sickos" as most people call them, that do molest children and/or have taken part in a rape or act of violence that has taken the life of another.

At first I was sheltered and opinionated like the majority of America. I thought, "if one of 'those' SO has to live next to me, then I will move my children and myself far away!". The truth is that with the taboo of being a SO comes the guilt and yes, the majority of them are NOT sexual predators (meaning they are two time or more offenders). Some of my patients go through years of counseling, years of rehab and then we filter them back into society. A few go back to jail... MOST of them do not.

Most offenders that have done something bad enough to carry this horrible label are not "normal people"... they are children that were molested themselves and abused as well. They are hurting, abused children living in an adult world and they messed up. They get their rehab, their medications, their guilt and thier label for the rest of their lives. How can they start to get better though when their next door neighbors or the local TV crew is knocking on their door. The whole, "If I'm already being called a slut then what the hell.. I'll do it!" syndrome. How can they move on and heal if no one will let them.......?????

I've come to learn that murderers aren't registered, arsonists, animal abusers, burglars, sadists... why SO? I don't want to live next to a homicidal maniac anymore than the next person but why does the SO have to wear the Scarlett letter?

I suppose I just think that we as a whole in America should think about how we are going to solve this problem. If "we" hate SO sooo much and want it to stop - how are we going to accomplish it? I can tell you right now it won't start till people start pitching in and stop throwing stones. Like mentioned before, there are more SO than there are 1/2 of our military... change starts with the people strong enough to make it.

:rolleyes:

[>>Flyboy<<]

You bring up some good "food for thought" but I bet you don't have any kids....

[SolarFlare]

I married an SO and I know he would not harm a fly, let alone another person. He is labeled a sexual preditor too and this does not mean he that he has offended more than once. I know for a fact that he is only a one time offender! I've seen his recorders. (I looked them up myself, after he told me what he did... and he told me openly when I first spoke to him. He thought I should know.) The Judge desided to throw the heaviest label at him, as he did many others that showed up in his court no matter what their case was (which is what I've heard others, even lawyers, say about this judge). Now my husband did deserve to be punished for what he did but he sure is paying a heavy penality for his mistake. He was 19 when he slept with an underage girl. I know he has learned from his mistake and would never do anything like that again. I don't think our judicial system is perfect but we do have the best government in the world.

SolarFlare

Oh yea... people aren't perfect either. I feel people do deserve forgiveness when they've learned, are truely sorry for what they did, and do not repeat their mistakes.

[January]

Not to cause an uproar, but I thought I would just mention one thing on this topic.

(I am a Forensic Psyhcology student in my senior year and I have worked the past 4 years along side many offenders, SO included....and this is what concerns me):

There are a good handful of sex offenders who need to be put on death row and actually put down, others that need jail time and rehabilitation and another good portion that are wrongfully accussed. I work with the "sickos" as most people call them, that do molest children and/or have taken part in a rape or act of violence that has taken the life of another.

At first I was sheltered and opinionated like the majority of America. I thought, "if one of 'those' SO has to live next to me, then I will move my children and myself far away!". The truth is that with the taboo of being a SO comes the guilt and yes, the majority of them are NOT sexual predators (meaning they are two time or more offenders). Some of my patients go through years of counseling, years of rehab and then we filter them back into society. A few go back to jail... MOST of them do not.

Most offenders that have done something bad enough to carry this horrible label are not "normal people"... they are children that were molested themselves and abused as well. They are hurting, abused children living in an adult world and they messed up. They get their rehab, their medications, their guilt and thier label for the rest of their lives. How can they start to get better though when their next door neighbors or the local TV crew is knocking on their door. The whole, "If I'm already being called a slut then what the hell.. I'll do it!" syndrome. How can they move on and heal if no one will let them.......?????

I've come to learn that murderers aren't registered, arsonists, animal abusers, burglars, sadists... why SO? I don't want to live next to a homicidal maniac anymore than the next person but why does the SO have to wear the Scarlett letter?

I suppose I just think that we as a whole in America should think about how we are going to solve this problem. If "we" hate SO sooo much and want it to stop - how are we going to accomplish it? I can tell you right now it won't start till people start pitching in and stop throwing stones. Like mentioned before, there are more SO than there are 1/2 of our military... change starts with the people strong enough to make it.

:rolleyes:
So you have a gun to your head and you have to make a choice, will you have the homicidal maniac or the child sex offender who is cured (filtered) as you put it babysit your kid/s, which would you choose, and why?

A.Homicidal maniac after serving time.
B.Child sex abuser after serving time.
Answer only (A) or (B).

[nickthechopper]

:confused: I want your opinion on this guys. I am 21 and i have a young child. Well considering the fact that i am getting married to what everyone else would call a "moster" because he is a "sex offender." ...

if I were you i may not marry with...
For my kid... As statistically most convicteds do the same... think more then twice!

[arizdiamond35]

The term sex offender covers a lot of different issues. Child molester, rapist, flasher all belong in the same category in my opinion. 18 yr old seniors in high school that have sex with their 16 year old partners they have been in relationships for awhile should not be put through the hell of being labeled for life.

My ex husband was a flasher that preyed on teenage girls while he was in his mid 30's (then managed to find me (stupid teen at the time)) he was given 30 days on work release 3 years probation then record expunged. My brother who was 18 in high school had sex with his 16 yr old gf and is a registered sex offender for life. So the term sex offender tells me nothing about a person.


I can tell you that some states do have classes for significant others of sex offenders that are very helpful. I think all parents should learn about the sex offender cycle warning signs and preventitive measures from experts when possible. The most important thing you can do is create completely honest and open conversation between yourself and your child so that if anything even slightly questionable ever comes up with anyone in their lives they know they can come to you with it.

My personal opinion is that no one with children should get involved with someone that has a past of child molestation or violent sexual crimes though.
And single parents should always check anyone they bring into their childrens lives against the sex offender registries. The true offenders are predators that know how to work those around them to get closer to their prey.

[SolarFlare]

if I were you i may not marry with...
For my kid... As statistically most convicteds do the same... think more then twice!

Statistically only about 5.3% of sex offenders reoffend in a sex crime.... so most do not reoffend.

[arizdiamond35]

Statistically only about 5.3% of sex offenders reoffend in a sex crime.... so most do not reoffend.


not sure if this is true but assuming it is I would hate for one of my kids to be the product of the 5.3% statistic.

[nickthechopper]

Statistically only about 5.3% of sex offenders reoffend in a sex crime.... so most do not reoffend.
How do you know exact percentage ? show us your source...

[sensfan]

not sure if this is true but assuming it is I would hate for one of my kids to be the product of the 5.3% statistic.

EXACTLY!!! In my opinion there is no excuse in the world for predatory actions..especially with children...

[SolarFlare]

How do you know exact percentage ? show us your source...

I've posted it before but I'll tell it again... I got it from the US Department of Justice.

[SolarFlare]

not sure if this is true but assuming it is I would hate for one of my kids to be the product of the 5.3% statistic.

I agree I wouldn't want my child to be abuse in the first place and I would want to protect them the best way that I can. I also feel that everyone comes from a dysfunctional background one way or another. Some are more dysfunctional than others. We all have been abused one way or another... whether it was verbal abuse when someone has said something that has been so harsh it stuck with us, to even worse type of abuse which is physical. I by all means am not saying that we are not responsible for our own actions onto others... but there is not one person that can claim that they are prefect and have never hurt another person whether it was deliberate and out of anger, or by accident when you could not for see the affect you had on another. All acts should be accountable. Now I do not care for those that know that they are hurting others and deliberately continue to hurt other for the sake of self pleasure... I think that is pure evil. But I also think there are those that don't understand what it is that they are doing and when they learn of their mistakes they change for the better and do not repeat their errors cause they do know it hurts people and they truly do not wish to cause anyone any pain. A lot of behavior IS learned... and when we act out, it mostly comes from our childhood... it's not to say they we do not continue to learn throughout our lives but who we are stems from when we were young and forming as an individual. I think as a society, it is up to parents to learn and understand how to be better parents... so that the children we raise form into solid human beings and create a better future for society as a whole.

[arizdiamond35]

you can only protect your children so much from the evil things in this world and knowledge definately helps that is why it concerns me that classes to understand the sex offender cycle and classes that teach you to talk to your children in an open honest way so they never hesitate coming to you on the important things are not offered more to the general poplulation and advertised as a tool to help protect your children

[SolarFlare]

you can only protect your children so much from the evil things in this world and knowledge definately helps that is why it concerns me that classes to understand the sex offender cycle and classes that teach you to talk to your children in an open honest way so they never hesitate coming to you on the important things are not offered more to the general poplulation and advertised as a tool to help protect your children

That would be a very helpful class... people can only learn when the issues are not longer "sweeped under the rug" and we can only grow as a society when issues are out in the open.

[arizdiamond35]

That would be a very helpful class... people can only learn when the issues are not longer "sweeped under the rug" and we can only grow as a society when issues are out in the open.

It is already required of sex offenders and their significant others in arizona

[lotus_elise]

There are millions of single men in the U.S. You only have one child. This is a no-brainer. Protect your child at all costs. Take no risks with your child's wellbeing. Kick the CONVICTED molester to the curb.

[retcop]

Statistically only about 5.3% of sex offenders reoffend in a sex crime.... so most do not reoffend.

The highest rate of recidivism is with those offenders fixated on children, do not lump all sex offenders together with one stat.

[YurMama]

:eek:

First I have to express my shock and amazement (and I'm just guessing here) that a person in -or previously involved in- law enforcement, would assume the worst about a person. Not to mention all the other people who read the words "sex offender" and somehow missed every other word in the original post.

OF COURSE any person in that situat