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Old 11-14-2012, 10:40 AM   #1
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Jude 1:17-21

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17 But you, beloved, remember the words which were spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ: 18 how they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own ungodly lusts. 19 These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.

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20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.



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Old 11-14-2012, 10:44 AM   #2
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Revelation 20:15

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And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:50 AM   #3
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Matthew 23:33

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Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell?
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:34 PM   #5
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Revelation 20:15

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And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
Revelation 20:13

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Does this mean because you are judged by your works, that some one who is without faith but lives a humble and pure life will not go to hell?
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Old 11-14-2012, 06:55 PM   #6
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Revelation 20:13

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Does this mean because you are judged by your works, that some one who is without faith but lives a humble and pure life will not go to hell?
There is no salvation without Jesus Christ. Read all of John Chapter 1.

Have faith in GOD the Word, which is Jesus. Without Jesus, people will in fact go to hell.

Look up scriptures about salvation.
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And, the overall message of Sappires post: Believe exactly as I do, or you will be TORTURED FOREVER!!! Do you understand that? TORTURED FOR ETERNITY!!! IN FIRE!!! For the crime of not believing! Do you know how bad a 3rd degree burn is? Well thats nuthin!

If your wondering why atheist, especially me, dislike christianity so much, This is Why. It infuriates me that young children, who will believe anything their parents tell them, are being taught that if they don't do certain things, they WILL be tortured FOREVER. They are taught that atheist, homosexuals, and people of other religions ARE immoral and GOING to Hell. They are taught to hate them. I thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that not all christians are like that, but to many are.
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And, the overall message of Sappires post: Believe exactly as I do, or you will be TORTURED FOREVER!!! Do you understand that? TORTURED FOR ETERNITY!!! IN FIRE!!! For the crime of not believing! Do you know how bad a 3rd degree burn is? Well thats nuthin!

If your wondering why atheist, especially me, dislike christianity so much, This is Why. It infuriates me that young children, who will believe anything their parents tell them, are being taught that if they don't do certain things, they WILL be tortured FOREVER. They are taught that atheist, homosexuals, and people of other religions ARE immoral and GOING to Hell. They are taught to hate them. I thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that not all christians are like that, but to many are.
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There is no salvation without Jesus Christ. Read all of John Chapter 1.

Have faith in GOD the Word, which is Jesus. Without Jesus, people will in fact go to hell.

Look up scriptures about salvation.
So John Chapter 1 is correct and Revelation is wrong?
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:20 AM   #10
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There is no salvation without Jesus Christ. Read all of John Chapter 1.

Have faith in GOD the Word, which is Jesus. Without Jesus, people will in fact go to hell.

Look up scriptures about salvation.
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So John Chapter 1 is correct and Revelation is wrong?
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And, the overall message of Sappires post: Believe exactly as I do, or you will be TORTURED FOREVER!!! Do you understand that? TORTURED FOR ETERNITY!!! IN FIRE!!! For the crime of not believing! Do you know how bad a 3rd degree burn is? Well thats nuthin!

If your wondering why atheist, especially me, dislike christianity so much, This is Why. It infuriates me that young children, who will believe anything their parents tell them, are being taught that if they don't do certain things, they WILL be tortured FOREVER. They are taught that atheist, homosexuals, and people of other religions ARE immoral and GOING to Hell. They are taught to hate them. I thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that not all christians are like that, but to many are.
Dear Richard and Evil Eye:
By understanding "Christ Jesus = Restorative Justice or Loving Justice with Mercy" (forgiving and loving others unconditionally as Jesus/God loves us)
and understanding the opposite being antichrist or abusing retributive justice to threaten judgment or punishment as a hypocrite committing the same wrongs

Both you and Sapphire are right.

Both approaches will get the same treatment and judgment they invoke on others. So if you preach negativity, you get suffering and hell in return.

If you act toward others with God's saving grace, you get that instesad.
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