NRA Publicity Fiasco

[evileye]

Originally Posted by Francoitalianarmy

I only shoot when I have to... get much more enjoyment from my bow these days...

Compound?

[Francoitalianarmy]

Originally Posted by evileye

Compound?

Ya... I have an older Mathews (about 3 years old) that shoots unbelievably accurate... very smooth, but I have about 6 different bows, 2 old recurves and 2 crossbows. I have been shooting bows for probably 25 years now.

I am bad about getting rid of anything once I have it...lol

[Francoitalianarmy]

Question:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, raises the knife, and charges. You are carrying a Glock .40 pistol and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and
your family.

What do you do?

LIBERAL ANSWER:

Well, that's not enough information to answer the question! Does the man look poor or oppressed? Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack? Could we run away? What does my wife
think? What about the kids? Could I possibly swing the gun like a club and knock the knife out of his hand? What does the law say about this situation? Does the Glock have an appropriate safety built into it?

Why am I carrying a loaded gun and what kind of message does this send to society and my children? Is it possible he'd be happy with just killing me? Does he definitely want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me? If I were to grab his knees and hold on, could my family get away while he was stabbing me? This is all so confusing! I need to debate this with some friends for a few days to try to come to a conclusion.

CONSERVATIVE ANSWER:

BANG!

REDNECK ANSWER:

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG!
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click ... (sounds of reloading)....

Wife: "Sweetheart, he looks like he's still moving. What do you kids think?"

Son: "Mom's right, Dad. I saw it too ..."

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! click.

Daughter: "Nice grouping, Daddy! Can I have his boots?"

[Wouldhe]

Originally Posted by Francoitalianarmy

Wouldhe,

If a handgun was registered anywhere along the way and you get caught with it...sucks to be you. That is the risk of buying private. It could have been stolen and used in a crime for all you know. Seems silly to take the risk.

Plad... you are a fucking lunatic!! lol

No one here wants to be a fucking European thus we do NOT abide by their rules including driving on the wrong side of the road!

Stop comparing what we do here to Europe! If it was so wonderful over there, we would already be there!

That possibility is always there but if you are careful and prudent who you buy from it shouldn't be an issue.

[Francoitalianarmy]

Originally Posted by Wouldhe

That possibility is always there but if you are careful and prudent who you buy from it shouldn't be an issue.

Here is why I NEVER do it... let's say you buy it from your good friend that you knew forever and he told you he got it from a good friend and he knows it is cool, but in the background, that guy actually got it from a guy he works with who got it from his son that got it from his friend that stole it.

Not known to anyone is the fact the gun was used in a crime and they have ballistic tests on it.... if somehow, that gun got into the authorities hands and tested... who would take the fall if the last person was you?

This is why I only buy registered handguns... it makes no sense at all to own one otherwise unless you planned on using it for something illegal. Why would you jeopardize everything you own for something so silly?

[evileye]

Originally Posted by Francoitalianarmy

Ya... I have an older Mathews (about 3 years old) that shoots unbelievably accurate... very smooth, but I have about 6 different bows, 2 old recurves and 2 crossbows. I have been shooting bows for probably 25 years now.

I am bad about getting rid of anything once I have it...lol

Nice, my brother and I used to bow hunt with compounds, but I like to target practice with a recurve.

[madmax]

Originally Posted by Francoitalianarmy

I only shoot when I have to... get much more enjoyment from my bow these days...

I am going to watch the Pens tonight... they are having a scrimmage against the local minor team. Playing a full game, then 4-4 5 min. overtime with a shoot out at the end.

I think it is gonna be a great sprint to the cup... the Pens division is so freaking physical I hope they make it unscathed to the playoffs.

I haven't fired a round in about 2 years, got to get my accuracy dialed in.
I hope I never have to use it, but...

I'm traveling for business so much it will be hard for me to catch any games. Heck, I haven't played in over 2 months now.

What's the story on Crosby? There were some concussion concerns.

[Wouldhe]

Originally Posted by Francoitalianarmy

Here is why I NEVER do it... let's say you buy it from your good friend that you knew forever and he told you he got it from a good friend and he knows it is cool, but in the background, that guy actually got it from a guy he works with who got it from his son that got it from his friend that stole it.

Not known to anyone is the fact the gun was used in a crime and they have ballistic tests on it.... if somehow, that gun got into the authorities hands and tested... who would take the fall if the last person was you?

This is why I only buy registered handguns... it makes no sense at all to own one otherwise unless you planned on using it for something illegal. Why would you jeopardize everything you own for something so silly?

I understand but after buying and selling guns for over 30 years I never had that problem come up.

[Dunno]

Just finished watching the Presidents speech on curbing gun violence and I finally understand. Evidently the bullets and guns are the problem not the people behind the weapons. It’s really great to know that we can live in the USA and not have to be responsible for our actions.

In fact after taking all the semi- auto weapons that have a pistol grip, flash suppressor, folding stock, and 30 round mags out of stores across the country the violent crime epidemic will stop. Fingers snapped problem solved.

The President and Joe could not be more wrong with their assessment of the problem. I wonder if they considered the weapons they have targeted cause less than 5% of gun deaths?

Every American today should feel like somebody just pulled one over on them. The facts don’t support anything that was done today, and the President knows this that’s exactly why he continued to say, “if we can just stop one death we have an obligation to do something”. I don’t disagree with the merits of the statement I just expect more out of the President of the United States. That statement is code for we have no idea what we are doing we just need to do something. They actually took pride in the fact that they accomplished this in 33 days.

Here are the facts again. Since 1995 violent crime in the USA is down 50%. Violent crime also decreased during the period of 2004 to 2012. Why is that important? Because 2004 is the year the assault weapons ban expired.

The President and Joe only got answers to the questions they asked. They would be best served to go back and ask why the violent crime rate over the last 18 years has decreased 50% and do more of that. They should also consider that during the same time violent crime rate was going down -gun ownership in the USA was going up.

I point this out for one reason - statically one has nothing to do with the other. Now before anyone gets their bloomers in a bunch let me say that agree with you- America is more violent than it should be and we could and should do more to stop violence.

Let’s face it if they really wanted to solve the problem of violence in America they have to look at the large cities across the country with a population of more than 250,000. Solving violence in America is a difficult problem and has nothing to do with guns or bullets. It has everything to do with the psychology of the person that decides its ok to take another human life. I think we all can agree that a gun has nothing to do with the decision a human being makes to take the life of another human being. The President and Joe have not even scratched the surface of the problem because they are too busy creating a society of dependence on government and a utopia where everyone can live and not be responsible for their actions.

I am the father of 4 kids. Two in HS, one is middle school, and one in elementary and the truth is my kids are not any safer because of the presidents actions today. I am not a whack job gun fanatic who believes we need more guns. I want our leaders to take meaningful actions not shallow expedient ones. Today a great travesty was done – the American people were feed a bunch of well crafted words and lead to believe that violence in America will be reduced because of the actions taking today but that could not be further from the truth. The gun is not the root cause of the violence much like the automobile is not the root cause of traffic fatalities.

Shame on the President and Joe for using those kids and families for their own media circus.

[Stevomeo]

Originally Posted by pladecalvo

It would be helpful if you learned to use the "Quote" function. Your post #227 is a mess stevomeo and I don't intend to spend time editing it so that I can respond to it. Look at the post from others that are using the "Quote" function correctly to see how you need to edit your posts.

I have difficulty with the quote function. It never seems to turn out the way that I want it to, therefore I color code my responses to multi-quotes. Perhaps my Rambo dim wittedness prevents me from learning things that have nothing to do with weapons. Is there a tutorial somewhere on this multi quoting process? No response to Freud's quote?