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Old 11-06-2009, 05:48 PM   #141
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Soon Jehovah will act as “a manly person of war.” (Exodus 15:3) Out of compassion for his name and for his people, he will clear away wickedness and establish a righteous new world. (2*Peter 3:13) The first to experience God’s day of wrath will be the churches of Christendom. Even as God did not spare his own temple in Jerusalem from the hand of the king of Babylon, so he will not spare religious organizations that have misrepresented him. God will put it into the heart of members of the United Nations to desolate Christendom and all other forms of false religion. (Revelation 17:16,*17) “And as for me,” Jehovah declares, “my eye will not feel sorry, neither shall I show compassion. Their way I shall certainly bring upon their own head.”—Ezekiel 9:5,*10
Anner if you emphasize retributive justice, that is what you reap.
If you emphasize restorative justice, that is what you get.
Both are in the Bible, by the spirit of the old and the new testament.

I choose the spirit of Restorative Justice which is in Christ Jesus.
The other consequences are there for those who choose the other side of the sword of justice. As you mete out, you shall receive.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:51 PM   #142
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Again Anner. Where you choose forgiveness, then there is compassion and God has mercy. Where you and JW judge and do NOT forgive, then of course you reap the same justice of God.

How forgiving you are of others is more important than how righteous you may think you are. By forgiveness, then the CORRECTIONS can be made to PREVENT wrath and suffering. So that is why I emphasize forgiveness and correction. So there is less conflict and suffering in the first place.

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so many people been in need of compassionate assistance. In the face of sickness, hunger, unemployment, crime, wars, anarchy, and natural disasters, millions need help. But there is a problem even more serious, and that is mankind’s desperate spiritual plight. Satan, who knows his time is short, “is misleading the entire inhabited earth.” (Revelation 12:9,*12) Hence, particularly those outside the true Christian congregation are in danger of losing their lives, and the Bible rules out any hope of a resurrection for those executed during God’s coming day of judgment.—Matthew 25:31-33, 41,*46; 2*Thessalonians 1:6-9.
Yet, until this late hour, Jehovah God continues to show patience and compassion toward the unthankful and the wicked. (Matthew 5:45; Luke 6:35,*36) He has done this for the same reason that he delayed punishing the unfaithful nation of Israel. “‘As I am alive,’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘I take delight, not in the death of the wicked one, but in that someone wicked turns back from his way and actually keeps living. Turn back, turn back from your bad ways, for why is it that you should die, O house of Israel?’”—Ezekiel 33:11. Jehovah’s compassion was also extended to the wicked Ninevites. Jehovah sent his prophet Jonah to warn them of impending destruction. They reacted positively to Jonah’s preaching and repented. This moved the compassionate God, Jehovah, to hold back from destroying the city at that time. (Jonah 3:10; 4:11) If God felt sorry for the Ninevites, who would have had the possibility of a resurrection, how much more must he feel compassion for people who today face an everlasting destruction!—Luke 11:32. This is not the compassion you speak about Emily.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:51 PM   #143
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Anner if you emphasize retributive justice, that is what you reap.
If you emphasize restorative justice, that is what you get.
Both are in the Bible, by the spirit of the old and the new testament.

I choose the spirit of Restorative Justice which is in Christ Jesus.
The other consequences are there for those who choose the other side of the sword of justice. As you mete out, you shall receive.
Emily that is your buddha way, not everyone else's. And believe me i want to be in the new system, you can be there too.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:58 PM   #144
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Emily that is your buddha way, not everyone else's. And believe me i want to be in the new system, you can be there too.
Same laws apply to everyone. The Bible says you reap as you sow, you are forgiven your debts as you forgive others. You get mercy as you give mercy.

Not just Buddhist laws of karma and dharma.

God creates BOTH laws, divine and natural, for the sacred and the secular.
So these would reflect the same truths, as Two Witnesses east and west.

The new system is restorative justice under Christ Jesus.
Since we both believe in Christ, yes, we are both working to that goal.
I just ask that we work together and not against one another.
Whatever misunderstanding or error is causing division it shall be removed in Christ Jesus by forgiveness and correction. Thank you Anner! Go with God!
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Same laws apply to everyone. The Bible says you reap as you sow, you are forgiven your debts as you forgive others. You get mercy as you give mercy.

Not just Buddhist laws of karma and dharma.

God creates BOTH laws, divine and natural, for the sacred and the secular.
So these would reflect the same truths, as Two Witnesses east and west.

The new system is restorative justice under Christ Jesus.
Since we both believe in Christ, yes, we are both working to that goal.
I just ask that we work together and not against one another.
Whatever misunderstanding or error is causing division it shall be removed in Christ Jesus by forgiveness and correction. Thank you Anner! Go with God!
your stubbornness will not get you anywhere with Jehovah, have a good evening Emily time for me to go home.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:37 PM   #146
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Unfortunately, Anner,

People are going to "fight" over who the True God is.

That you believe you are following the True God does not make it so for all people.

For example, your belief or perception of the True God is nowhere close to mine. However, that does not make your True God more true or less true than mine. What is important is what force or impetus in your life drives you in compassion, mercy, love, et al.
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Anner if you emphasize retributive justice, that is what you reap.
If you emphasize restorative justice, that is what you get.
Both are in the Bible, by the spirit of the old and the new testament.

I choose the spirit of Restorative Justice which is in Christ Jesus.
The other consequences are there for those who choose the other side of the sword of justice. As you mete out, you shall receive.
sorry Emily, you don't know nothing about it.
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Unfortunately, Anner,

People are going to "fight" over who the True God is.

That you believe you are following the True God does not make it so for all people.

For example, your belief or perception of the True God is nowhere close to mine. However, that does not make your True God more true or less true than mine. What is important is what force or impetus in your life drives you in compassion, mercy, love, et al.
Unfortunately true people will fight over what is true, we see it here all the time on this forum, However our perception should not be our own, but the one who gives us life and instruction, Jehovah God.
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Same laws apply to everyone. The Bible says you reap as you sow, you are forgiven your debts as you forgive others. You get mercy as you give mercy.

Not just Buddhist laws of karma and dharma.

God creates BOTH laws, divine and natural, for the sacred and the secular.
So these would reflect the same truths, as Two Witnesses east and west.

The new system is restorative justice under Christ Jesus.
Since we both believe in Christ, yes, we are both working to that goal.
I just ask that we work together and not against one another.
Whatever misunderstanding or error is causing division it shall be removed in Christ Jesus by forgiveness and correction. Thank you Anner! Go with God!
yes the Bible does say we reap what we sow, so I advise you to be careful, about what to believe in. you cannot follow the Buddhist way and follow Christ. you know, "a slave cannot have two owners."
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.......... "a slave cannot have two owners."
There you have it in a nutshell folks!!
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